The truth of the matter is Muslim belief is not based in spirituality but in theocratic laws. It is essentially a political and social system that sees Australian laws as anathma to Allah. They use our freedoms until their community is strong enough to introduce their political idiology abusing our equality and democratic rights. Islam is not a spiritual religion it is based in ancient intolerable laws. People are not free but under bondage to the laws of Allah. Why do you think wars were fought for freedom of our Western values - they despise our society and laws and wish to enforce shari'ah. They are political system opposed to our values. Their beliefs are the enemy of Australian ways and freedoms.

philo
Are you saying that all muslims coming to Australia are a threat?
Are you saying none of them simply want a better life for their families?
Or/ Are you saying that there are many Islamic Councils and Centers and the Government should appoint - one and One only to be seen as the Muslim leaders and work closely with that Council to ensure good working terms.

FYI Australia has several Islamic muslim Councils.
They compete for power between themselves.
I guess there is nothing really much different about that as so do we.
Are you saying we need to know that there is one leader and anybody arriving in Australia will be expected to look towards that group for religious purpose and the police laws councils and governments for everything else.
Are you saying you think they should have to sign something to the effect that In Australia we dont inter twine our religous with our laws.?
Mind you the Government certainly inta twine Church with politics- but still I guess thats our right because it is our country and our Church.

Or are you simply saying\
Nah No More P them Off somewhere else?

The fact is Western values and the laws Muslims believe came from Allah are in conflict. Those that adhere to and long for a state where shari'ah rule are at enmity with our culture and values. They see death to their opponents as legitimate. The Rev Fred Nile and several of his supporters have received death threats since his calling for a morotorium indicates Islam poses a threat to Australian family values. Laws are the servant of man and not man the servant of laws. We make laws to service our protection and values.

Look at Western societies where Islam is emerging there are real dangers to those of different or no faith. Islam is taking over, says Dutch politician

The Telegraph, Bruno Waterfield, 2 March 2007

“An anti-immigrant politician is making a meteoric rise with his call on the Dutch - once one of the most tolerant nations in the world - to stop Islam taking over Europe. Geert Wilders, the 43-year-old leader of the Freedom Party, is convinced that governments are being forced to accommodate a 'tsunami of Islamisation' that is fundamentally incompatible with European social values. "Islam itself is the problem. Islam is a violent religion," he told The Daily Telegraph. "The Prophet Mohammed was a violent man. The Koran is mostly a violent book. We should invest in Muslim people but they have to first get rid of half the Koran and half of their beliefs," he said….”

At: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/01/wdutch01.xm

They do not believe in intergration, they believe in segreation and laws to accomodate them.

PHILO'S LINK... you need to add an l after the xm at the end to get the link to work.....

An interesting story and confirms exactly what his is saying "Islam is a violent religion" and that there are enough "violent Muslims" out their to bring 600 death threats his way.

To my mind, the whole religion should be removed, because clearly, if you criticize it the moron element will hunt you down. So..it is based on intellectual 'extortion' and physical intimidation.

What IS it about this faith which causes some in every country to react to criticism with violence ? Could it be.. maybe.. the core violence in the religion itself ? and could it be the idea of Insulting the prophet being a very serious 'CRIMINAL' offense in an Islamic state ?

This further underlines the need to remove Islam by proclaiming Christ and barring further immigration. Undeniably, where ever Islam exists, it has sufficient followers who believe in the violent protection of it from criticism. This is totally unnaceptable to our Western values, and if the Muslim community cannot stop it, we must find other ways.

Christians believe God will 'heal the land' when people humble themselves. Muslims appear to believe that Allah will turn the rain back on when all are living in willing or unwilling SUBMISSION to Allah.. under Sharia law.

As far as the East is fromt the West, are these 2 understandings of mans relationship with God.

Can I ask a question? in a debate like this the right of religious freedom is given unquestioned by most is that true?
Then do I have the right not to believe in any God?
If not then religion truly is the greatest danger mankind faces.
In my days as a born again Christian a true church , true middle of the road no cult church asked God to heal a child's broken arm for hours before taking the poor kid to hospital.
It will rain again ,drought is not a punishment and rain will not be a reward.
I am no threat to any religion and hope my rights are as as important as theirs.

Last Update: Monday, March 12, 2007. 7:11am (AEDT)

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Fred Nile has called for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration. (File photo) (Reuters)

Islamic group scorns Nile's anti-immigration comments
Islamic groups have described a call by the Christian Democrats to suspend Muslim immigration to Australia as divisive and inflammatory.

The Christian Democrats leader, Fred Nile, says Australia should implement a 10-year halt on Muslim arrivals.

Reverend Nile says suspending Muslim immigration is the only way to test the impact it is had on Australian society.

That has angered Nada Roude from the New South Wales Islamic Council, who says it reinforces a misunderstanding in the community.

"There is an assumption that immigration policy is designed just to support Muslim immigration," she said.

Ms Roude says she is not surprised the comments came from Reverend Nile and she hopes the wider community will ignore them.

"There are bigger issues that I think communities are worried about and certainly it's not as though we have a huge level of Muslim migration," she said.

The president of the Anti-Discrimination Board, Stepan Kerkyasharian, says the idea flies in the face of Australia's democratic values.

"It is a very dangerous path to take," he said.

He says a policy that discriminates against a particular faith would be appalling.

"Absolutely unacceptable in a just and democratic society," he said.

Mr Kerkyasharian says Muslim integration into mainstream society is a challenge for Australia, but says that is because Muslims have only been arriving in high numbers since the end of the white Australia policy in 1966