One by one they cometh forth and release the truth!

http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/wp-content/uploads/podcasts/2011/THE_SYDNEY_INSTITUTE_MURRY_SALBY_2_AUGUST_2011.mp3

“Anyone who thinks the science of this complex thing is settled is in Fantasia.”

Nuff Said!

Well said mjpb.Eclipse now,let's get something straight.I'm not a deniar.I'm a disbeliever a heretic, a person beyond scepticism.Someone whom the catholic church would have hung drawn and quartered centuries ago for saying the planet was almost a sphere.

You still have not answered my question.Why has NASA taken down their study in 2009 which shows that past warmings were caused by the sun?

@ MJPB

<<Life on earth is carbon based. Carbon dioxide is released from just about anything.>>
Life on earth is water based, and water is released from just about anything. Therefore Tsunami's and floods and hail and snowstorms and hurricanes and snow avalanches cannot kill people! ;-)

1. Co2, just like water, is all about context.
At one time SUPER-excessive levels of Co2 may have actually SAVED life on earth!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_earth
But this was back when the sun was 4% cooler! So just as a rainstorm is welcome during a drought but causes despair and disaster during a flood, Co2 is welcome during a long ice-age but causes despair and disaster during an interglacial period.

If you truly doubt what Co2 does and want to SEE the absorption spectra of Co2 with your own eyes then watch this, 90 seconds in. The whole 10 minutes are worth watching, but go to about 1:30 if you're in hurry. If you can make *this* just go away I'd be impressed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Un69RMNSw

2. Tim Flannery & Rains have returned?
Yes, you noticed? Tell me, does your Denial of science include the El Nino and La Nina cycles as well as the fundamental forces of physics like absorption spectra? Have you heard the story of the bath? Weather and El Nino are like waves in the bath, but extra Co2 is the tap left on. As the 'water' rises we get closer to disaster.

3. Dr Evans?
He worked on the computers "building models for the Australian Greenhouse Office" but as far as I can tell is NOT a climate modeller. My wife designs beautiful website LOOKS, but doesn't code them up. That's the backend work we pay a coder for. As far as I can tell real climate modellers told Evans how the software should work, then he coded it up or ran the math. That's about all he is qualified for. Unless you've found a secret climate Phd somewhere? ;-)

Dear RM,

The link you've given us is from the Sydney Institute,
a privately funded - conservative think tank.
It receives support from the Australian Business Community.
The Executive Director is Gerard Henderson. His wife -
Anne Henderson - is Deputy Director. They aren't
climatologists so I'd be a tiny bit sceptical as to
"their truth." As you rightly said - "Nuff said!"

Get it straight Eclipse Now.We are not holocaust deniars or climate deniars.We just don't believe the BS climate warming twaddle.

To be a deniar you have to deny something that is a scientific law,absolute truth or real by observation.The theory of AGW is none of these.

@ MJPB
You mentioned of my friend Barry Brook that:
<<and thus has a living dependent on Climate Change being accepted>>
Tell me, does your scepticism of scientists paid by the public purse also include those terrible drains on the public purse like doctors, health specialists, cancer researchers, immunisation programs, ... and then if we include normal public servants can we trust ANYTHING primary teachers, high school teachers, garbage collectors, sewerage plumbers and contagion specialists might tell us? Where do we stop?

Boy, you must have SUCH a high regard for science that you can just character attack thousands of climatologists and every National Science Academy on the planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
In my experience conspiracies just don't last long. The truth would have come out by now. Humans just aren't that smart.

Next post, UHI (Urban Heat Island effect).

@ Arjay: You don't like being called a Denier? Fine, we'll make a deal. You find me ONE reputable Scientific organisation, like a National Academy of Science, that actively disagrees with the AGW hypothesis, and I'll drop the charge of Denier. OK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

But if you DO in fact DENY the empirically tested and measured FACTS of our heating world that EVERY SCIENTIFIC ORGANISATION ON THE PLANET has independently verified, then aren't you out there with "Aliens at Area51" Fox Mulder conspiracies? Who can possibly account for such a world-wide scam?

I honestly think your political conspiracy theory is more frightening than the geophysical warming realities as documented by every National Science Academy of this civilization.