Dr David Evans is qualified in mathematics,computing and electrical engineering.He helped build the carbon accounting model for the Aust Govt.By some he is ranked in the top 5 computer modellers of climate in the world.Dr Evans is now more than a sceptic on AGW theory and no longer works for the Aust Govt in this field.

He makes the point that in 1995 the statictics no longer supported their theories of AGW caused by CO2 but the money now devoted to the science of AGW created an unrelenting momentum that perverted the science.Enormous amounts of money could now be made by Govts and on the share market by corporate interests.

What people weren't told that 2/3 rds of the warming was modelled on increased water vapor initiated by the supposed amplification caused by CO2.The predicted "hot spots" in the upper atmosphere did not happen.Weather recording stations were not calibrated to acount for the heat island affect of cities and often skewed reading were taken near asphalt,air conditioning units etc.2010 was declared the hottest year ever but the satellite records showed an entirely different story.The planet is actaully steadily cooling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f0s_gKsNk After Jo Nova you will hear Dr Evans speak at the recent Hyde Park Rally .Ignore the yobbo near the camera.He must work for Get Up.

there are those who refuse to recognise they are wrong arjay
[these refuse to even think they could be decieved]

its much like the lies made by ommision
as in smoking..where the cancer stats
reflect the same proportion's
for non smokers getting cancer..as non smokers

but by cleverly deeming cancer as a cause...
all cancer statistics..goes into the numbers

add in the other thing's SAID to be caused by smoking
[like heart disease..and you soon come up with the BIG NUMBERS
they need to make their abusive taxation's..as 'the right thing to do']

we can add in things like speed camera's
or compulsory super contributions..

[that act much like a pyramid sceme
with 10% of our wages propping up..
[and inflating the stock value...'now'..

but like all gambling..
the pyramid will in time fall]

but those who have invested in guilt
mate they have pride...too much pride..
to even admit their spin is wrong..and they were lied to

we can keep on trying to explain the spin
but mate..let those who would be decieved
be decieved..

they so love the higher mighty blame/shame game
noting the indexed increase..kicks in tomorrow..[again]..on my smokes

by the too clever by half..half yearly indexation...
[your too clever by half mzzz rocks on]..

but got ya big mediSIN mates
a great new cash cow..on non patentable nicoteen..gum....lol

boy are the voter dumb or just numb
and still muggs pay tax on wages
when wage isnt 'income'

sheep
go back to sleep

bahhhhhh bah

next you get gmo/d into sterility
but hey...its the blind leading the blind
via a two party scam..run by backdoor boys
and paper fiat values

ha ha
soon the joke falls back on you
the money changers..new tax will make and break not just you

The problem has changed.
We are consuming oil and coal at too fast a rate.
What will we do when the fossil fuels are all gone?
If the Earth is too hot how can we power air conditioners?
If the Earth is too cold how can we run heaters?
How to power transport?
The fossil carbon tax is intended to reduce the wasteful use of
this asset.
The biggest problem is population.
Then running out of fuel.
The third problem is global heating or cooling.

i detest their lies
its allways been hotter and colder
thus clearly climate changes..but is it man made

its well known how the earth goes arround the sun
sometimes closer to it..other times farther out from it
accordingly..the earth on its elipitical orbit..has warmer colder times

hence gren land is now white ice land
on its way back to being green

we havnt reached peak oil or peak coal
in fact coal seam gas..now sems infinite
when realisiticly thats what was previously said re 'natural gas' and petro chemicals...

that of course are finite..
but will last longer than your solar cell roof bling

[the main 'infastructure'
that has caused our power to rise 40 percent..in 4 years
excepting the solar cell bling subsidy and supply by back bribes]

how dumb are the consumers
who pay more for services..[because state odious debt has gone nuts]
qld alone shall owe 85 billion..in two years..[currently 65 billion]

we need to have many debates
clearly the liars shoe leather
has become seat leather..[hence the big inflation of her belly zone]

we saw bert combie on bolt
avoiding the many questions
seems if they cant mention tony they got nothing to say

i would like to see tony play with models
[like a clear class case,...with a block of dry ice in it]
that melts..into a clear glass case...and photo's of the many poluting chiminies sold us as spin..that are in the main steam

or tony them bubbles in beer/softdrink...bread
all c02..mate

yes juliar is in hiding
but mate bring out your own model-bling*

''see that empty space..!
thats c02..''

its not our fault that the gullible need the platitudes/spin

yes petro/coal will end..but it was cheap energy that made the industrial revolution..

and it will be expensive energy scams that end it

it takes carbon
to make those carbon free 'alternatives'
there is no such thing as carbon free..[its a building block of life]

live with it
its not worth dying over

Arjay, it’s the wrong debate, as I keep saying on OLO.

It really doesn’t matter if AGW is real or not.

What is important is the undeniable fact that we are living in a manner that is a million miles removed from sustainability, and heading in the wrong direction still as rapidly as ever. And this is all been made possible by fossil fuels. Or at least greatly exacerbated by our use of them.

We’ve built a grossly unsustainable existence, around the world, on fossil energy. Humanity’s top priority has surely got to be to strive for a sustainable future, and that means a maximised effort to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels, especially oil, with coal being a little less critical.

The whole global warming debate is a huge diversion.

So, we shouldn’t be concerned about whether Dr Evans and his ilk are right or wrong. It is IRRELEVANT!!

We’ve GOT to maximise our efforts to develop alternative energy sources, improve energy-use efficiencies, reduce overall average per-capita consumption, and stop population growth, regardless.

Ludwig stopping the carbon tax is the pressing issue at the moment.I've just arrived from my third Carbon Tax protest at Hyde Park.There is abundant energy on our planet and we can fix the environmental problems and have a good comfortable existance.

Currently I'm experimenting with hydrogen via electrolysis as a fuel supplement.The kit I've bought seems to work.It needs to be broken in and and calibrated with the right amount of electrolyte.Hydrogen has 2.6 times more energy per litre than petrol.Just a small amount of hydrogen can make petrol 25% more efficient and far less pollutive.Apparently it has a bigger impact on diesel.Why haven't our car companies focused on hydrogen as a fuel supplement?

We probably can use hydrogen as a major fuel source but they seem reluctant to go there.It might make energy too cheap.