Dear sonofglion,

You said;

"That you four gems see Windsor as admirable exhibits your ignorance regarding democracy let alone the history of the man."

It invites the retort 'if those on the right fail to see any integrity in Tony Windsor then they can hardly be expected to recognize the lack of it in their own party'.

Thus Tony Abbott remains leader.

Of course that would be a cheap a shot, wouldn't it? 

No no Csteele, I am a social democrat so Abbott is no poster boy for me, if I am alive and he is in power and wanting, I would bag him relentlessly for not doing what he is paid to do, my reasoning is as simple as that. In regard to Windsor, he is being paid and not doing what the electorate is paying him to do, represent them rather than himself. If you do not see this I cannot help you in regard to the expectations from an electorate of their paid member, and what Windsor is doing is certainly contrary to what the KNOWN expectation of the electorate is. I told you why he is doing it, 20 years of hostility is a long incubation.

@ SOG:

I love the smell of sour groups in the arvo :)

You're the guy who loves democracy so much you advocate first past the post voting, don't you? Wouldn't have made much difference with Windsor, would it?

Don't worry, the tables will probably turn in a couple of years...

Top marks Sonofgloin:

...Another factor the locals on this page refuse to acknowledge is Windsors ant-union secret side. What a hypocrite is Windsor; siding with a political party of a pro union bias. Alarm bells should ring loud.

...Windsors is not a stand reflecting philosophy at all. It is not a stand proving personal integrity as some believe, but more a position now of personal dis-intergration.

Morganzola>> I love the smell of sour groups in the arvo <<

I love that line...