Ludwig,

Firstly on a personal basis your nothing to me. To complain as you did the trade was stopped for 4 weeks to try to stop animals being flocked to death with chains is beyond comprehension.
How could anybody complain about that. I cannot in here express my utter contempt strongly enough for your comment. There is no excuse and of course it was done straight away.
What did you prefer Ludwig we allowed thousands more to be stabbed 33 times and flocked with chains – SCUM is what people are who support that .

Without warning- Your kidding Ludwig. There has been warnings 60 minutes inquiry after inquiry and bans by Liberal government for years. Just how much more warnings do you want.? How many more millions of the public tax payers $ do you want spent on this dead end economy trade. Do you know how much each tax payer pays to top this evil trade up- Do you.?

*How the hell could you possibly think that was appropriate?*

How in the hell could it NOT be the appropriate action.

*We are lucky that Indonesia didn’t keep it that way and source all their imported cattle from elsewhere* > smile<
Allow me to inform you about that er, luck. Indonesia is a very corrupt country. Its just their way. Of course no surprises there – we all know that.
However the $ paid by way of bribes openly are another matter when it involves other countries and organizations
The bribes are made all the time- quiet openly and AQIS are fully aware of it. Just because they are too gutless to do something- doesn’t mean the rest of us are.

TBC

The government need to be also careful with their lies that there are no inquires/ meetings regarding ritual slaughter in Australia- while at the same time”” Holding rushed hushed meeting in South Australia on Monday & meetings last week in WA to support ritual slaughter in Australia.

This is despicable behavior from this ALP Government and we won’t tolerate it. No doubt they think”” if they support ritual slaughter in Australia there will be no grounds to support banning the live trade-. Of Course if Abbott being the good churchy had any common decency he would speak up ....

They ALL need to watch they don’t walk into a royal commission. We don’t want AU turned into a 3rd world country . The Attorney general said No Sharia Law in AU. That’s not true. They approved it for ritual slaughter. No wonder why Muslims get mixed messages.

*But if we can make sure that the proper humane*

Dear God man use your brains’! Did you read that on a government web site? Or maybe picked it up on a google search put out by MLA or the industry.

Are you that gullible- here is news-

Indonesia Refuse to stun first then cut the throats. I will say it again in another way that perhaps you might understand Indonesia is a long way from Australia.

That don’t give a continental about what Australia say.

There are thousands of Australian cattle in feed lots in Indonesia & if you think the Indonesians have stopped locals and their everyday buyers buying your dreaming.

Likewise if you think good old Indonesia are saying no oh no mister you no buy those cows they are Australian and we promised the Government we would supply you anymore

If you really believe that your insane.Oh deary me- did the Government promise you that wouldnt happen.

Gee did Joe and Julie Lie?
Nah Tony just forced them to resume.

Either way Indonesia will do what Indonesia does.

Hi Banjo,
Are you really trying to tell me that the Howard Government didn't waste money, why did they sell of government agencies such as Telstra et al? after all it was funded by tax payers....did we as tax payers get any of the spoils? No, my friend, it was put into the coffers of the Government to fund their superannuation, lets not call the Labor party wasteful, my friend, I am afraid that all, or at least most, of the Pollies, from any persuasion are as wasteful as the rest.
I would like to see a lot more accountability from both sides my friend.
Have a good night
NSB PS., The W.A. News Channel ran a series of Government 'SHAME', it included a huge dumpster bin full of expensive wheel chairs....why were they in it? I hear you ask?....Answer....Because they needed the tyres pumping up.....at least they could have sent them over to the underdeveloped countries, or at least the struggling families who might need one in Australia.....at the end of the day my friend, they are all tarred with the same brush.

Posted by Shadow Minister

**I have heard that some of the footage on 4 corners was not recent and was added for effect.

This stoppage was done based on the media / focus groups, and not a reasoned response. **

Well SM thats a bit of a childish lame comment with nothing to back it up.

How do I know your not just making it up.

Where may I ask did you heard this?

Of course if you dont want to reply we will just take it thats its a lie.

Not the first, not the last, but the only one that will be remembered for all time.

Forming government with the Greens.

That is going to cost the ALP more than most people can even imagine in the medium- to long-term. The rest is detail, we've had bad governance before and we'll get it again, that's no big deal in the larger scheme of things. In fact, right now Abbott could state that he was aware the entire "Children Overboard" fiasco was a fake from the start and he'd thrive on his "honesty"...

The ALP has to realise that running after the green vote is a lost cause, it destroyed Latham, it is in the process of destroying Gillard and it will continue to destroy anyone who does it. Those votes are lost and not worth pursuing - because even if you do as the Greens want, their voters will still vote Green (thus you alienate ALP Voters chasing approval from people who won't vote for you anyway, regardless of what you do).

It'd be like the ALP running after small business, expecting them to support the ALP at the ballot box, oh, that's right...

sonofgloin,

I read your post on the 17th I think it was. At least one person in here understands re real problems of this country and why both sides have been just as destructive as the other.
Yes they signed our country away without even asking us.
what do we do now. Well there is a group formed wanting to attack this and take it to the high court. Its our only hope. Let me know if your interested to hear more. Sorry I didnt read it before & i hope you understand I felt a bit sorry for the other poster.
I would like to hear more of your comments if your still posting.
Its very hard to find others who really understand what Australia needs. I agree it wont matte who wins unless we fix this.

Trouble is we are running out of time & everybody is asleep complaining about little issues instead of looking at the much bigger threat.

cheers