News Of the World will close its doors.

200 people from printers to truck drivers, administrative staff to all the journalists will lose their jobs.

The editor, Rebekah Brooks keeps her job. Murdoch heir, James keeps his.

A few journalists who were responsible into the hacking of private people's phone messages have been or will be arrested.

"Meanwhile, Scotland Yard said up to 4000 people may have had their voicemails accessed by the News of the World and added that it was probing claims that the paper had paid policemen for information."

http://tinyurl.com/3q6xldc

Prior to this we had the GFC - Giant Financial Collapse. Who came out of that worse off?

Winding time further back, in Victoria in 1998, a gas explosion causing the death of 2 workers and stopped gas supplies for Victorians for two weeks and the event was blamed upon an untrained worker.

"Esso blamed the accident on worker negligence, in particular Jim Ward, one of the panel workers on duty on the day of the explosion.

The findings of the Royal Commission, however, cleared Ward of any negligence or wrong-doing. Instead, the Commission found Esso fully responsible for the accident."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esso_Longford_gas_explosion

In all cases the people paid considerable incomes were not held responsible for their organisational practices and behaviours.

The only time the much lauded 'trickle down effect' appears to operate is during industry failure, where the majority suffer for the actions of the few.

I am looking forward to an interesting, informed and courteous discussion on corporate behaviour that ultimately impacts on us all.

Ammonite not sure any forum, in the world, can give you the form of discussion you require.
I am unsure putting any limits on freedom to talk in any way comes as a right on starting a thread.
I have never considered in any thread I started installing fences in advance.
Here if we look, is evidence major one family ownership of and such enterprises may be unwise.
I look at the history of this family, father of it present head, having Prime Ministers of this country stand hat in hand at his Adelaide desk and address him as Sir.
Even a glance, while riding a Galloping horse, at the Editorial control,slanted and just maybe knowingly biased nature questions the suitability of this family to own any such enterprises.

Ammonite you have nailed some very important public and commercial probity issues here.

I would like to have seen some examples from other than the commercial sectors, might I suggest the inclusion Professor Michael Mann, Professor Phil Jones and the IPCC’s “railway engineer” Mr. Pashauri.

All of whom seem to fit your criteria that “In all cases the people paid considerable incomes were not held responsible for their organizational practices and behaviors.”

Great topic, Ammonite.

Haven't time for a lengthy contribution at present. Suffice to say that once upon a time, villages were clustered around castles. Both entities were dependent on one another - and they knew it. Somewhere along the line of Western advancement moral stewardship and wise governance has given way to grasping, greedy profit-making as the sole determinate of "making it".

Men and women who govern in any capacity should be imbued with a wise competence for the welfare of society at large - this appears incompatible with capitalist practice.

ha ha..the buck dont stop
but if you stop the buck$
they can be held to account

but as revealed...they will only re-frame the debate
by closing down the paper...and opening *another

they will spin their spin
[they wont giveup their control over our opinion]
and those served by their trickery..wont give up using
what they collectivly offer..[sheeple]

like i just heard on abc...a new proffes-ional
an expert on carbon dioxide 'polution'
who when asked simply how much c02 in a ton of coal
blitherd and blatherd that its vairiable..[so he is a proffesional guesser]

or yet another believaqble/defacto authority
to help govt get their big new tax into law

which is basicly what media is about..*believability
putting voice..to those who supoport..each others adgendas

anything we say..will get drowned out
just as their points..will be parroted add nausium

comentary on commentary..spin on spin
just dont notice the dumbing down

if you dont 'get it'
dont support it

if you cant explain it
dont support it

if you cant explain it
etc etc etc...its spin

one head gets cut off
another will regrow

the media
babble-on-ian..wwwhoar...hydra beast

will rise from the ashes
new paper....new staff..new name..
same old tricks

[be-cause they work]..

Spindoc

Your opinions of the IPCC are very familiar. I posit that the executive staff of this organisation receive far less renumeration than do those of many global corporations such as BHP, BP, Exxon, Monsanto, most financial institutions and many others whose industries create physical impact on our environments and lives.

I do not intend this thread to be diverted into a discussion about climate change.

However, if your point is the higher up the ladder one is the less chance of falling? This is the anomaly what I wish to deal with. Why has the average person become so complacent or apathetic? When we are so obviously being manipulated from all sides?

Belly

I wouldn't have a topic if I followed your dictum. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to reject it completely.