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RSPCA National Animals Australia WSPA & unanswered questions

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till your next post

there is so much we need to do

''the harvest is heavy
and the workers so few''

[noting the bible says...
'let the wheat grow with the tares
till at harvest"..they reveal..their weedyness..or wheat
their qualities..

my thoughts run along the lines of
we are all able to be trusted..

untill we each prove...we don*t deserve the trust...
THEN..these people loose the right to own a 'pet';..[how i hate that title]

like those killing cattle...who were cruel
should instantly have been removed from the kill floor
and retrained..put on probation...taught the more humane[less cruel way]

[there is no perfect way...
all killing is murder]

but thats like i said a law..*we ALL* break

ie seeds are teqniclly living...
and how many died to make your baggel
whats worse killing with a conscience..or mindlessly

there are questions religeons
MUST BE FORCED TO ANSWER

not the lasty question must be
what of the law...re having no other before god..[like his son]
or like creed..rite and ritual

i will get..to the pell thing
but cant do it alone
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 July 2011 5:24:36 PM
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THE PELL THING SO FAR- Yet Again

Open PUBLIC Copy of letter sent NO REPLY as usual..

From: info@livexports.com [mailto:info@livexports.com]
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 7:04 PM
To: 'selina.hasham@sydneycatholic.org'
Subject: FW: CHURCH RESPONSE TO ANIMAL WELFARE BAN LIVE EXPORTS Shocking footage again on 4 corners Church silence publicly - @@@@

Dear Salino.

I am a lawyer working with@@@. Pls acknowledge the receipt of @@@ email containing inks to the inquiry. Also I @@@to @@@you may have some difficulties filling out the inquiry form given your organization has not been involved earlier. If this is your position perhaps with your media contacts you could speak out in another way.
Mr Robert @@
From: info@livexports.com [mailto:info@livexports.com]
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 10:52 AM
To: 'selina.hasham@sydneycatholic.org'
Subject: FW: CHURCH RESPONSE TO ANIMAL WELFARE BAN LIVE EXPORTS Shocking footage again on 4 corners Church silence publicly - @@@@

Dear Salina

As discussed on the phone, we strongly recommend that you contribute your views to the two inquiries currently being conducted by the Australian government: I have copied the inquire forms and we are more than happy to assist you with this. The fact is there is no reason to send these animals to suffer such cruelty. We can send meat to feed people. Not that these animals go to feed the impoverish people. Poor people eat rice and vegetables if they can get it. On a personal note I mentioned to you by phone every Australian Muslim Leader is lobbying the Government to ban live exports. They have been for ten years. I am involved with assisting them to lodge their subs also.
I am also aware that a group of Animal Lovers are with deep pockets discussing TV adds to highlight the Churches role in speaking out loudly for God’s creatures. I hope the Church is more active in speaking out in the future
I @@@ the founder of @@@
Live Exports are one of the people who are deeply disappointed by the silence of Church Leaders in Australia so far. We believe the Church should play a active public role.

TBC
Posted by Kerryanne, Saturday, 16 July 2011 7:38:59 PM
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continues-

If its anybodies moral obligation imop it is that of the Australian Churches. Also would you pls distribute asking people to write to the inquiry voicing their objections to sending animals off in ships while still alive- other etc members etc. Maybe a bulk email.

Here is a copy of the inquiry papers to lodge online. Pls don’t hesitate to contact me on @@@@ if we may be of assistance in any way. No matter how small. Perhaps you might take a moment to look at the comments here and sign this petition thank you- http://livexports.com/petition/results.php The peoples feeling are clear. The public have spoken. They ask us in hundreds of email where are our Church Leaders.
Pls speak out for God’s creatures,.
We ask this in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.
Regards
5; The review into the whole live export trade (http://www.livestockexportreview.gov.au/) and
 The review into animal welfare improvements in the trade (http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/rat_ctte/live_exports_2011/index.htm)

There is no need to address every question in the terms of reference but the more relevant information they receive the better.

With regard to the Federal Government’s review into religious slaughter arrangements which is yet to be completed, there is some information here http://www.daff.gov.au/animal-plant-health/welfare/aaws/specifying_the_risks_to_animal_welfare_associated_with_livestock_slaughter_without_induced_insensibility and here http://www.daff.gov.au/animal-plant-health/welfare/aaws/a_scientific_comment_on_the_welfare_of_sheep_slaughtered_without_stunning. You would have to contact the Animal Welfare Branch regarding the status of this review.

‘Hope this helps.

Kind regards

As so you see Under One God even as people they wont submit to the inquiry
Posted by Kerryanne, Saturday, 16 July 2011 7:50:59 PM
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i havnt had a chance yet to read your letter
but im glad you posted it

your certainly dedicated[3000 indicates your trying very hard]
i respond best with quotes..to set of other thoughts

quote...""Over three thousand letters..to Church/church leaders
we have sent out throughout Australia-NO INTEREST..."

i once deliverd a hand deliverd letter
to many churches...[by being 'in person'..i got immediate replies

realise they must get 'many'..letter's
[i did]..so i expanded beyond churches/mosks temples
still nothing...

i lobied the queen[pope of great briton]
getting as close as her driver..
[and a look of terror as she drove past me]

deliverd the letter to chogm
got arrested...and deliverd the letter to police/courts/polititions..etc

all that didnt work
so i began blogging

""They remain hiding behind the bibles""
[wil reply..after i read letter]

""and i find it[hiding behind the bible]..
THE most offensive act of hypocrisy ever...""

were they hiding behind the bible
[ie quoting it]...

or simple ignoring the letter?

""It would be fair to say I hate them
for what they have not done.""

this is of concern...[the hating bit]
that they didnt 'do anything'..you must realise
those who want/sought power..now have absolute power

both materially...and they think spiritually
[i must get to the letter]
but 'fear'..not giving you a proper FULL/reply

""all ears
but this is what i need ATM""

[atm?..'at this moment'?]

""TV adds..ready to go to air.""

an 'angel' once told me
correct timming is everything
[the minute you book air time...those who oppose your message
will do their counter attack..

[if it has any choice of changing anything]

but lets look at..

continues
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 17 July 2011 8:21:46 AM
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what you got from where
""Its a lovely sunset with a minister
reading from the bible near the water&
that song telephone to Glory-do u know it?""

ok the sunsetting..means this 'ministar'
is in the lower realms..[this seems the source of this 'idea']
mainly because the motivations comes from anger/hate..

*ALTHOUGH for good reasons...ie saving animal cruelty..
any letters sent at this time..will dissapear with the other letters
both on the animal issue,..plus all the 'other' isues..people are trying to fix by demand letters to the church

as for the telephone to glory never heard of it
but lets egsamin what its saying

TELEPHONE TO GLORY
Frederick Martin Lehman..[early 1900s)?

Central’s never “busy,”..always on the line;""

ok this is true
if it gets done..its being done now
[ie the decision to do it[or not]..is made instantly

""You may hear from Heaven..almost any time;""

this is not true
its heaven that is listening to you

we are far more likely to 'hear'
the still inner voice..from those in hell
[who feed off our hope fear/hate/lusts;wasted energies]

""’Tis a royal service,
free for one and all;""

not strictly true
deeds and works..are the only real'currency'
in both heavens and hells..[i should explain vivisectionist hell
from where the rspca was concieved..by a repentant vivisectionist
seeking to redeem his cruelty to animals..by in-spiring..its creationFOR the protectioon of animals]

but must finish the song first
""When you get in trouble,
give this royal line a call.""

central lies betwixt[between]..the light of heaven
and the darkness of hell..yes you can call 'central'
but beware..who takes the call

""Refrain

Telephone to glory, O what joy divine!
I can feel the current moving on the line,"""

its not enough to 'feel' it
you will be living it...and depending
on what your loving about it..[more shall be given]

""Built by God..the Father for His loved and own,""

god is the god of love[passion]
he loves the lover..wether they chose to love the light
or love the darkness...

see that evil..DOES its evil..with passion
[THEY REALLY LOVE IT...

much more than we love
who love..doing the good]

will continue
later
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 17 July 2011 8:33:11 AM
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there is no one
who is not gods 'own'
but because so many think..they alone..are his
there isnt much we can do

""We may talk to Jesus""
anyone 'can' talk to jesus
but jesus isnt comming to fix nothing

[can we free a slave..
who loves being a slave?]
or a beast..loving being a beast?

''talk to jesus..thru this royal telephone.""

we talk by our minds..one to one
[not via..a medium..as-like a tele-phoney]

""There will be no charges,""
no blame no shame
those who love to hate..will seek out reasons
to hate

""telephone is free,
It was built for service,..just for you and me;""

im sort of getting over this
exclusivity breast bleating
by those..certainly not serving good

""There will be no waiting..on this royal line,
Telephone to glory..always answers..just in time.

Refrain

Fail to get the answer,
Satan’s crossed your wire,""

there is no satan
only those so vil
so loving all things vile
that their souls resemble demons

[ie smelly rude/crude children..with loud voices
that they are clever enough to lower..
when they want something only you
can give them..mind energy
[guilt blame shame hate]

""By some strong delusion,
or some base desire;""'

yes egsactly

we arnt here..to hate
or make other fear

only to stop cruelty..to the least
by the ones..[us]..that god has given the most

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Posted by one under god, Sunday, 17 July 2011 8:35:00 AM
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