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Return of Kevin Rudd?

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Well maybe, as strange as some would find it such and action would lift ALP polling by near ten points.
Why.
Well lets step lightly around the truth, Gillard has failed.
She, or some one close to her, Crean? Fitzgibbon? it could even be the lady herself, but she has much baggage.
Actions aimed at being popular,like the very fast and not thought out one on live exports, always do more harm than good.
Continuing to remind us ,truth too, the ALP must reform.
She has no regard for rank and file concerns.
As many hangers on,and groups remote from issues condemn those who built the party to the side lines.
And of most concern? ALP front and back bench focused on the fact we have a dysfunctional opposition , ignore the fact we are in the middle of a muddy patch waking in circles and telling the world we are better than them, leading with our chin not brains Julia has no chance, none of ever surviving.
But we freeze, believe we are going to win a lottery we do not even have a ticket in.
A new leader can, mostly rightly, blame her promise better dump some killing policy's be accountable.
Rudd may not be the answer, not if most put self in front of party,But only Gillards Friend Mark Latham did more damage.
Is it the job of a member of this government, product of a party many worked hard for, to be stunned like a rabbits in the headlights .
Or just maybe, party first?
27% primary vote, Hi Kevin my name is Belly are you here to help me?
History may remember these days as my party's failure to be brave ,to remove our heads from the sand and say those magic words. party first.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 June 2011 7:36:41 AM
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I think you're right, Belly. While I was never a great Rudd fan, Labor could do a whole lot worse than reinstating him. Who knows, the experience of being dumped might have taught him a thing or two about the perils of political hubris.
Posted by morganzola, Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:12:19 AM
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the experience of being dumped might have taught him a thing or two
morganzola,
Don't you people ever wake up ? He is an academic who will never understand no matter what you throw at him. Haven't you got any sympathy for the plight of many constituents ? We need a sober manager at the top not someone drunk on self importance. Isn't it time you gave the future of the country some thought ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:20:18 AM
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belly rudd...as pm isnt going to happen
[kevin is happy doing the globetrotting..its what is in his heart

if the libs assurd him he would be the next foreign minester..he would become more invisable]...locally..not globally..

he isnt comming back
he was saked cause of the carbon tax thing
isnt going to return..to push it through...juliar made her own bed

in fact labour fell right into johnny howhards TRAP
[the tax on carbon was HIS IDEA...he HAND PICKED mr fannelry
to deliver the report..HE WANTED*]

and simple bribes
and accesss the govt metings and greatings
have ensured the rest...[its about taking 30 pieces of silver mate]

and stabbing a mate in the back
its only..'espri de' core'..rudds loyalty to party
that he dont tear that bottle red ...fffff/ranga into little bits

mate he is angry
really angry..at juliar
but has the grace to forgive her
but not save her and her supporters from THEIR OWN FOLLY

as you know belly
those who lead..need to keep the appearance of honour

and juliar and her party powerMEN..dont
got that..and cant afford the price of bying it
by doing it by egsample...

they are prepared to lie/distort/ommit/spin
do ANYTHING..as long as their mates get back in

and the librattters..and greenie ratters
and independant ratters...all are willing to do the same

corrupt big business..only does work...
with other big traiters

the real question is who is paying what party how much
and how much govt gave back to them...in peoples tax money

im reliably asured a mINIMUM return
for a public donation is 100 to one

give them 1000..you get back 100.000..AT LEAST

just look at those who paid 600 bucks to acces the free solarcells
now getting pay checks of 500 a quater

and using more power than ever
making power in the day
ABusing it at night

the nanny state will fall
[look at greece]..then next year the eu

politricks...peeeeuew
it stinks...
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 18 June 2011 9:58:14 AM
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Individual, I have no intention to be rude to you.
But not a bit from avoiding the truth.
In not one statement or post from you EVER, have I seen any thing to convince me you are a person to admire or follow based on your ability to think
Some very Good conservative posters can be found here, I find their comments interesting.
Yours often just a poorly put together insult are much less than reasonable.
To my ALP fellow travelers ,the anti Conservative posters here is my view of the truth.
It is in my view true we have never had a worse opposition.
And yes, even with the mounting blunders Labor has better policy's, SOME TIMES, we however seem focused on how bad Abbott is, not remembering, not caring, some need to be told in depth, just what we are doing and why.
WHY can ABC to Australian reporters make political statements in the form of questions and not BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE ON AIR
I will give a question right now,in this form, that should be standard
To,reporter*Your question appears to be your opinion in the form of a question is this a question or your opinion*
Labor, in shear fear, waited till the last second to remove Rudd, we have Shorten Combet, Rudd a few more, why wait.
For my childhood a hungry hardship filled one I Had often, pumpkin and spuds for tea the skins for breakfast and the ALP and a belly full of hope for every day.
No splits no new ALP no defectors no bending to the greens Labor returned after 23 years on the back of following the voters not yuppie fools not changeling Gillard
Bill Shorten , now mate NOW or never my party must think of those we are insulting.
Tell me I am wrong but spare me the lie Gillard and her flock Lathamites, killed Kim and now the silly woman has her hands on my party's throat.
If we go down because we lack guts we we will damage our party of our rank and file.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 June 2011 12:50:59 PM
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Belly you're kidding yourself mate.

You may want to think the opposition is incompetent, but even with a fifth column, headed by Turnbull in their ranks, they are running rings around your lot.

Although many Labor supporters may accept Rudd back, to get rid of Julia, the general public would never let him back into the lodge.

I'm not too sure either, but I think perhaps the general Ozzie has finally woken up to spin, & are growing tired of being conned. Labor is going to have to go back to telling it how it is, to regain some credibility. I don't think either Julia or Ruddy could ever stop the spin. They probably believe it themselves by now.

You got rid of a drop kick, at least from the top job, you should have finished him. His fifth column in Labor is even worse than Turnbull's is for the Libs, as the media trot him out more regularly, to remind us of what a con man he is.

For heavens sake, go & co opt Turnbull to Labor, his thinking is much more in keeping with your physiology, & many of you seem to really like him.

It would be a win win win situation. The libs get rid of Turnbull, you get a better leader you like, & we get that awful woman's face & voice off our TV screens.

Please.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 18 June 2011 1:59:43 PM
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