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King Hazza be very careful, can you asure me those panels did not come to you with a subsidized price.
Did you receive and swap as part of the deal certificates.
You from your arrival here often talk of rip offs and unfairness.
Are you content * your good luck* is raising the price of electricity for every one else?
A country village home, like mine, can with ease product twice what it takes to run.
Subsidizing the installation, but paying for it by transferring ownership of the extra to government.
Should reduce prices.
And why politicians have not thought about it stuns me.
No offense KH but I doubt your panels cost you full price I doubt the gear used to link it did and sorry, but that you consider the best out comes for the community.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:26:22 AM
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By the way, I am ALP to the boot straps.
Do not like retrospective legislation.
And will need to go to war with Barry OFarrell.
He in fact is acting without the full information on public service wages and quite wrong.
My party will cringe.
But Barry ,you should not have backed down here,the scheme was wrong, it rewarded those who could pay.
ALP please note, at the expense of some whom sit in the cold afraid to turn a heater on.
Fead back in real life is telling me to shut up!
NEVER! the pain of being flogged lives in my chest my party sold its sole to grubs now gone,todays pain must be lived felt and taken as the humble pie it is.
So never again will the few so badly miss use my party.
I will just bet some of the grubs who sank Labor are getting checks from this slanted system that increases bills for the poor.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 9 June 2011 5:37:54 AM
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Belly,

I think you said your cells were not connected to the mains.
If they are mains connected without a smart meter, when you generate
excess to your needs power, the meter runs backwards.
So in effect they pay you the same rate as they charge you.
However with a smallish installation it will never end up with them
paying you.
The problem with the gross system was they pay you for the power you
use yourself as well as what you feed back in.
On top of that they pay you about five times the standard rate for
everything you generate.
It was never sustainable and the idiots just couldn't see that.

The government could not have won a court case thats probably why they
backed down and will collect an extra $7 per bill from the rest of us.

What should have been done was to pay the cell owner a rate above
the wholesale rate the distributer pays for the electricity.
The whole purpose of the exercise is to save investment costs of
the generators having to build new generation coal fired plant.

That is what I meant by the system has been designed for the wrong problem.
World peak coal is about 20 years away and we need alternative
energy generation for when that starts to happen.
Peak coal in Australia is more than 20 years away, so we could stop
exports and not worry about new generation plant for some time.
However other countries will offer good prices for coal and we
could use that money to build whatever comes next.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 9 June 2011 9:15:01 AM
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I am quite certain they are not subsidized Belly- and memory serves me correctly it was Labor that wanted to go back on the deal first.
And seeing that it is Labor imposing the Carbon tax- they are free to cancel that very Carbon tax any time they want to save the money (and actually get an environmental outcome too).

And for that matter, could you explain WHY my purchase of solar panels is even increasing taxes at all? As the system could very much imply that when a home is using my sold excess they would only be paying me (my company) its rates instead of its regular company?

But again- if the government wants to stop the rebate, it can pay for someone to come to my house and convert the circuits to an internal feed (After giving me the money it owes me when the rebate was on, of course).
Posted by King Hazza, Thursday, 9 June 2011 9:39:28 AM
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To be perfectly honest. BOF's handling of the solar feed in was not handled with sensitivity.

The scheme was a financial bomb left by NSW labor, and had to be dealt with. But as the owners of the solar panels had contracted in good faith, there would need to be some compensation.

I would have proposed reducing the tariff to 40c, but would have increased the time period to 2020. This would have given them the same payment, but over a longer period, and reduced the need for electricity increases.

The clamp on wages, however, is long overdue, and the bloated public service could do with a trim.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 9 June 2011 9:47:47 AM
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all true sm
i agree with belly too

but would like to add to this topic re line degrading
just because your putting in a watt..dont mean others are getting that watt/amp or jule or whatever

take today for egsample..its cloudy/overcast
not enough amps to run a heater/toster or a fridge
those with solar...now are suckking it direct off the system

just as they all suck it off the system at night
[at night..*WE are all using coal]...even you lot ripping off the 60 cent tarrif]

and there is the point
[fixing the wrong problem with the wrong solution]

you got day time power

EVEN IF WE ALL GOT..'day time cells,..BELLY
at night..*we would still need every bit of coal fired power
as the cells stop generating EVERY night..or cloudy day]

add in the line voltage drop over distance

your solution
need's a global line/linking us 24/7

[and thats not going to happen..here...maybe in europe..BUT not here]

as well as being close enough
to negate line droppage

solar [with battery]..is fine for a farmer/fisher
or others nowhere near a major line

but thats about it
cause it only works half the time
yet in time will still cost us the earth

all the increased c02..is mainly from building solar/wind coal seam gas..and bio gas emmiosions

YOUR CURE is making things worse
and costying us to much money

money going to greedy
people..who know how to blackmail govt into BAD actions
via bad taxes..via nanny state oppressions..police courts jails

when its them
the real criminals..selling fictions for three times their cost
[GROSS proffitering..and loading tax payers up with odious debt*]

as well as a solution that only makes power
whenever the sun shines..out of their iffs and butts
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:52:33 AM
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