To highlight that all views are being heard here let us look at OUG,s contribution.
If the power is generated on site,and without costs from the Sun, why not use it?
I disagree King Hazza.
Yes Shadow Minister it was an ALP contract,
I know a bit about this.
First subsidy's went to those who could afford $5.000 them selves, for a time it was a middle income only thing.
Both state and federal gave more subsidy's , paid for in extra cost to? consumers without the panels.
I intend to install them ,once the market settles, want no stolen money from those who can not afford them.
If I had that contract, now no longer possible, I would get three times the retail price for my unused electricity.
60 cents, but as I am not I will get 20 cents still retail price for My extra.
In my view we should subsidies installations, letting us have no bills,but the governments state and federal should OWN OUR excess to pay for the costs of installation.
IT is not fair, that some houses put subsidized small factory's on their roof, to profit, from others pain at rising costs.
Happiness, sorry Shadow Minister tell me what is wrong with my view and smile it will not crack your face.
I have self installed and maintained solar to run my lighting and radios, it runs a TV in blackouts.
Not deep cycle battery's normal truck ones but will put a big enought system on my roof to run today and future loads.
Not rich. even well of but any return is going to Charity's.

belly quote...""..views are being heard here
let us look at OUG,s..contribution.
If the power is generated on site,
and without costs from the Sun, why not use it?""

thats not what im saying belly
im saying the solar cells..are a scam allround

first those who got them for less than their cost
second for those 'selling it for 60 cents'..[mate that isnt reasonable]

i resent their claims...building/transporting..
errecting the darn things..all cost co2...

the stuff they are made from
had to be mined/refined and built from industry using co2

they connect to the other infastructure
they arnt supporting...they are leeches
greedy/loud opinionated organised lobby group..enjoying their freelunch

im not refering to you belly
i resisted getting in on the scam
just as you have...if it isnt fair for all its a rort or a tort[scam]

i can agree with other issues you raise
i feel roofs that have the moast efficient use
and conveniant to the networks should get it put is for free
[with the option of bying..or paying back all the costs..if they want to claim the benifits]

if not they the govt should pay the rent on the cells
or give them a discount/share

can you just imagine
when the hail stones fall on their solar?
talk about bill shock

I haven't even seen the circuits of the solar inverters and controllers
so I am guessing here, but the electricity supply company should be
able to restrict the amount of power being fed in by notching up the
supply voltage and so back off the solar cell output.
This way they could cut back on what they would have to pay the solar
cell owner.
They can remotely make the tap changer adjust the line voltage to
prevent the solar controllers being unable to exceed the line voltage.
If the line voltage is higher than the cells can produce then no
current could be fed into the mains.

Has anyone here ever adjusted solar cell controllers ?

Bazz mate no! we share a hobby,and in my area the battery back up I spoke about has been driven by one bloke in that hobby.
A few are now running it, quite a few.
Give me your views on this.
See my comments here, understand even today those making money from the scheme, are charging those gains to?
Those who could not afford to install them.
IF WE think with me, install them as cheap as we can.
But all over supply.
Gos FREE back in to the system.
We can reduce electricity costs.
Reduce our carbon footprint.
Reduce the need for new power stations,
A system Bazz that improves not rewards those who could /can afford them but every one.
what do you think?
OUG not every solar panel is subsidized mine are not, they work are much cheaper now.
Mate I can never share your view both major party's /the world is bent.
That every thing in the world is a rip off.
My idea rewards every one,yours blacken every one.
Each home could first get no bill for power and at a cost,current prices, return half its over all usual used power free to the grid for a total outlay of less than $7.000
Then? who knows other can build on the idea maybe give that power free to pensioners in homes without panels?
My idea is discount all homes with it.

No tears out of me I'm afraid;
I'm quite happy that the government has stopped worming out of its own signed contract and done the right thing; My only other points are:
1- I am not "taking" money- I'm selling you MY electricity using a panel *I* paid for;
2- If the government is put out by this rebate, then it is more than welcome to stop giving a few thousand dollar handouts to bribe swinging voters, retirees, etc, and welcome to shut down the desalination plant, or cut down on the harbour bridge fireworks and various other useless rubbish each year to make up the difference- and that is ignoring the parliamentary perks and retirement bonuses.
3- If the government decides to rat out of its part of the deal, it should compensate me for my losses and kindly pay to have my solar panel electricity feed internalized into my own house.
4- Again- without some alternative to convert to (and that should also include electric cars), the government has no justification for introducing a carbon tax or carbon trading scheme (putting aside many of you would agree anyway with this point).
The choice is really quite simple.

If your selling it I hope your paying TAX on your income? You pay a fee for using the line to draw power to your house, are you paying us a line usage fee for transporting your goods on OUR wire system? I bet your not so it seems you are taking us for a ride!