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The Forum > General Discussion > Making people employable is the key to welfare to work reform.

Making people employable is the key to welfare to work reform.

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Bellybabe: “Every cent we pay to those who will not work is wasted, should be spent on helping the honest ones a job should be both a right and an honor.”

Not when when baby needs you more and parenting isn’t being treated like a right.

“Jewerly,you above all understand,some are baby factory's.”

If ‘some’ are then that’s what Aussie wanted and encouraged wasn’t it? Now watch the mandatory reporters in daycare start overworking those fax machines to supply the next business up the chain.

“I rared 5 children for such, she had the welfare I had the bills and kids.”

Do you remember at 12 months old what they were like? It’s a really clingy stage and we’re going to force young mums to dump babies with strangers in day care. It is such a foul thing to do.

“Education is a promise not a threat, without it pain can destroy both mum and kids.”

Well it will feel like a threat because if they wanted to bugger off to school or work they don’t need to be threatened with money cuts to do it so what’s the easiest solution to stay home with first born? Have a second born. And on it goes.

Is it the govt ‘s job to find daycare new clients or was this about the daycares being upset with the rule changes for them coming in?
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 6 May 2011 7:00:06 AM
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I now leave, no intention to debate lowering living standards of Australians in the name of small business or big.
Belly,
No-one is suggesting that. Stop worming your way out of responsibility. As a Union Rep you had your hand in sowing what we have now, the least decent act you can perform is to help find a solution instead of trying to put down those who want to better things. No-one's saying Unions are bad, they have done many good things but for crying out loud stop defending those who stuffed things up. Instead of simply dismissing other's suggestion tell us in your next post what your idea is to lower unemployment & stop supporting those who do not want to work. My suggestion is to start with a non-military National Service.
Posted by individual, Friday, 6 May 2011 7:04:55 AM
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'Well it will feel like a threat because if they wanted to bugger off to school or work they don’t need to be threatened with money cuts to do it so what’s the easiest solution to stay home with first born? Have a second born. And on it goes.'

Hahaha. Well spotted.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 6 May 2011 8:48:15 AM
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every gift generates
an obligation

get together to help each other

i done the 'course'
a waste of 3 months
those in the know simply skip the classses

and nothing was learned
but it was recorded as leaving dole
[ie fiddling the numbers..
after course...were..no longer 'long term'..unemployed]

but some obligation for the dole
like do one day baby sitting for other mothers
to get them socialising..thats what we lost..
someone to 'talk' to

or better to listen too
Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 May 2011 1:10:49 PM
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Remove the endless reels of 'red tape' both government and private companies created over the last few years, and Government may just be surprised with the number of talented and skilled Australians wanting to work and who are more than capable of contributing greatly to our workforce[s]and country.

Governments have made it more difficult for skilled workers in relation to many things following new additional legislation in some states. In many instances, one requires thousands of dollars upfront to work/acquire a job, ranging from the costs to be fully ticketed, possess work licences, provide up to date referees, no blemish or scar on ones record at all, pass rigorous security testing for both private and government work, be prepared to work in two positions as opposed to the one position employed for the same wages; the list is endless.

Forget unions to stand up for any rights; there are many industries not covered.

Australian companies and government are currently blocking excellent prospective employees with far too much "red tape".
Posted by weareunique, Sunday, 8 May 2011 1:47:04 AM
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Weareunique,
Everyone I speak with is condemning red tape, yet most are employed by this cancer of our society & economy. We vote in politicians but we don't vote in consultants yet the politicians use a huge amount of our money to employ consultants to make decisions we've voted the politicians in for. What an idiotic yet widely condoned practice of corruption & incompetence.
It really is a sad reflection of the electorate and an even sadder prospect for any moving forward, the promises of which we had shoved down our throats before the elections. Australia will continue to decline if Australians continue to choose not to think, particularly at election time. The unemployment & unemployables are the clearest, yet most ignored by-product of a people too consumed with consumerism instead of looking at what's happening in other countries which experienced this stage 40 years ago. Australia has one of the highest travellers' rates by comparison but do those australian travellers ever return with an enlightened philosophy ? I haven't seen one yet. They just proudly show of how many stamps they scored in their Passports.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 8 May 2011 8:24:55 AM
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