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The dreadful and tragic deaths of that family saddens us all.
But lets look at the details we know.
The killer is said to have mental health issues, we know only that.
SA is normally a safe place.
Death of a dog,that may have been poisoned or not is said to be a driver not race.
Now for Fester, so what then do we do? India is just one over populated country,far too powerful and independent to be told what to do.
This is an international problem.
We however can if we wish to change current policy's, control our migration/refugee in take.
NOT ever can we fix the world by taking more of both or one.
It would be like trying to empty the Sydney harbor with a thimble.
Do we cuddle ourselves tell ourselves how nice we are and kill our country.
Or is it just possible answers exist.
UN useless nobody's, but what if we changed it.
Set rules stopping America China and Russia propping up such as we have seen fall, make those country these folk flee, habitable and safe.
If every cent we give went to help not into the pocket of vermin, we could tax every western worker/tax payer half of one percent to stabilize those country's.
My idea at least would start fixing it, burying the west in people is only delaying mass deaths and war.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 2 May 2011 5:12:48 PM
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China has a one baby policy.
If we stabilize these country's, stop population movement world wide can we not at least stall growth with no more than two baby laws.
OK individual freedoms and all that, but we must do something.
Reward those who obey punish those who do not.
Harsh?
Right now this country has some very poor parents who have, then abandon children so they can buy a big screen TV.
What has the most value the future of individual rights to breed children that are unwanted in some cases
or the planets future.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 2 May 2011 5:21:27 PM
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OUG:“so this is how think tanks work”

I dunno I’ve never been in one before. I’m reading then shooting off to google stuff. You could say I’m thinking but in reality I am giving myself multiple headaches.

I’m trying to figure out my own existence and where it should be and why it makes a difference if I stop or return, head off to another country. I’m not going to breed (promise) and I attempt to be very green and don’t do benefits. Reverse that – I’m trying to figure out where my own existence should be and if any country in the world really wants anyone from anywhere else if they are honest about it.

But I learn a lot while busy trying to justify in my mind why I am here. And I did forward the opinion that I thought the problem with immigration was more about bad management of resources instead of lack of. So as a stranger in a strange land I reckon you should get your collective sh1t together because I quite like the sunsets.

I also thought maybe quit vaccinating and let disease naturally knock a few unhealthy ones off for a couple of decades then I thought that was probably kinda mean and considered I may be one of those unhealthy ones so that idea got binned. And what would we do without the autistic kids – they’re big business too.

Bellybabe:“Right now this country has some very poor parents who have, then abandon children so they can buy a big screen TV.”

Well that sucks, who does that… don’t they know if they keep it (the baby) they can keep getting money?

Banjo:”“Don't know if you have had a chance to travel west since you arrived here,…”

I’ve been everywhere mate. Nah I really have, took a 6 month driveabout, really liked many sunsets and decided to immigrate.

Banjo:”We are taking lots of our most productive land out of production, forever. Not very smart is it?”

Must be working for someone out there, maybe it was done to keep immigrants away?
Posted by Jewely, Monday, 2 May 2011 7:44:21 PM
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Belly

There wouldn't be a population "problem" were people able to access contraception. There is no need for any coercion. That conclusion came from research funded by those useless nobodies at the UN. Those useless nobodies also try to encourage countries to offer their populations voluntary contraception on the basis of the improvement in living standards to be gained by adopting such a measure.

As for Australia, as Hasbeen observed, there is little to be gained from near city farming. Much better to turn those farms into shoddy housing estates. But how do you get buyers for all those shoddy houses without immigration? And because of the secretive development process the farmers still miss out on the opportunity. But it isn't just the farmers, but all land owners who miss out because of the severe restrictions on development. Best not to have much competition.

How do you change things? I would suggest by taking away the profit incentive. You do this by greatly easing the restriction on the property development process. As immigration does not seem to have any positive per capita economic impact, it follows that a profit derived from immigration can only come at another's expense. In the case of property the profits of developers are more than offset by the debt incurred to provide public infrastructure. Without the restriction, development becomes more profitable without immigration as there is no longer the associated infrastructure burden.
Posted by Fester, Monday, 2 May 2011 10:31:38 PM
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Jewely,
Glad to see that you have been able to have a look around Aus. But when I go, I look at the practical use of the land, not so much the sunsets. By the way the sunset colours are caused by dust in the atmosphere which means we are losing more of our precious topsoil.

The ones that benefit from us covering good land with houses, etc. are developers and councils and maybe some councilors/politicians get a bit handed under the table.

Remember the floods in Brisbane? A retired builder told me that about 40% of the houses flooded were built since 1974 and below the flood line of that year. Why would authorities allow deveopment and home building below a known flood line? I wait to see if the inquiry covers this aspect.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 2 May 2011 11:27:27 PM
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Jewerly first, girl hope life gets better,but you are so very wrong.
Let me tell you why I am not unhappy to be branded racist.
My parentage English/Irish /Scottish and Welsh, all from the finest convict stock.
At least 5 generations Aussie born.
I left a country village having seen from other than this country one Scotsman two Germen ex ww 2 Panzer ones.
Sent to Sydney I worked and mixed with people from every nation.
Was no more or less racist than they too were, most demanded I stop trying to learn their language.
See they said it was the duty of their people to learn mine.
My extended family inter wed and still do.
I learned more about life and living from those migrants, formed more friendships,more hope than in all my life before.
Jewerly you, the world judges me harshly, I am fearful, truly, I walk the streets of a suburb of Sydney ,every shop has a memory, the cranky Greek café owner.
Yugoslavian fish and chip shop.
Now this not small not cowardly man,faces people who do not want me there, in the streets and as a paying customer.
The School some of my mates went to burns our flag and has u tube films bragging about it.
I Think my country is in danger because some think humanity is best s served by being thrown in a mixer and letting the strongest come out in two century's.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 5:49:10 AM
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