Belly, if you like daylily colour, try breading your own. It really is very easy, much easier than any other breading I have done, plant or beast.

The only problem I have is native bees. I have a very large hive in my windbreak around the house paddock, & they are so quick all the pollen is gone just after first light. To beat them I have to cover the buds of the ones I want pollen from, that should open tomorrow, each night, if I am to get any.

The genetics seem to be much mixed, as the seeds from one seed pod from one pollination of one flower will often give a dozen different coloured plants when grown.

It really is interesting, but I can't yet predict what any mix of pollen & flower will produce.

You have to give the seeds a month to 6 weeks in the fridge to get high germination rates, but compared to hibiscus for example, it's childes play. Best of all, they flower so young, you know what you have, without waiting years.

Thanks will do hasbeen have about 40 but want much more , bees natives are the only ones around this year.
Back on thread, lets for a few minutes for get our biases on refugees and population growth.
Look at India and Pakistan,Afghanistan and all those over populated country's.
Only the hardest hearted of us would not openly cry at the life some lead there.
Kids starving elderly too sickness and poverty.
Tell me I am racist but why are they over populated.
Some say we need the children to help us in old age others in case some die,religion tells them to breed more.
if no religion existed we could Begin to control population.
If people got life education in stead of religion understanding would come.
I doubt we can stop ever increasing numbers of refugees worldwide but unless we think in terms of our country first we are going to kill our country.

Hey chaps,what do you think regarding the South African family who got gunned down in Australia? How ironic. They wanted to escape the hi murder rate in their country only to be murdered in 'crime free' country. How sad. May their souls rest in peace.
www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Australia-still-safer-says-SA-expat-after-murders-20110501

so this is how think tanks work

lol

i put out 7 ideas...one gets put down
then belly drops in his boot

banjo...im talking more about the area
arround nimbin/lismore/byron...and yes the l;and is more priced for future land division...but nothing like the millions most farmers think in

the trick isnt to wholesale
the money is in retail

no farmer can make money selling
his apples for 35 cents a kilo
but its even worse for the backpackers picking it

what i tell backpackers is get ya pay in what your picking
if the farmer says you earned 50 buck..or 100 bucks..
take it in the produce..come back to the suburbs and sell it dor to door for buck fifty a kg

those who cant make a living on a farm are imply not thinking
[i met a bloke who just grew those food additives weeds][herbs]
he was making 200.000 a year...on quater of an acre

we see fruit growers making other product..from their fruit
like gra[pes make sultana's..or dried peaches...or just use ya mind..think..[got milk make cheeze]]

ever heard of permaculture..its basiclly growing food in compost
wether the compost is made from old phone books or straw

ya grow a few different fruits...vegies..even buy a few cases of vegies on the way to market..a huge bag of spud's..then sell to the new agers at farmers marketts

the absurdity of we will starve
or belicose..saying..[TO THE AFFECT]..
kill off your children..[their all going to die anyhow]..

it is just plain nuts
im quitting this think tank
that pretends to want solutions
but in reality is just easing us into killing off the future

small thinking
comes from small minds

if we got too much food..where would the dooms day
think tank bwankers be..with their beatups and fears

no where
so stop feeding them all your good ideas
dont partake in 'surveys'..let their dead head thinking die gracefully

<Tell me I am racist but why are they over populated.>

What choice do the poor of India, Bangladesh, The Philippines etc have, Belly? They dont have access to contraception, so the overpopulation is inevitable. But as a consequence they provide a ready supply of cheap and hard working laborers. Incidentally, this is of great benefit for those who could provide them with contraceptives, but who choose not to.

But dont take my word for it, Belly.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=55231

<Former U.S. Agency for International Development (AID) official J. Joseph Speidel notes that "if you ask anthropologists who live and work with poor people at the village level...they often say that women live in fear of their next pregnancy. They just do not want to get pregnant."

The United Nations Population Fund and the Guttmacher Institute estimate that meeting the needs of these 215 million women who lack reproductive health care and effective contraception could each year prevent 53 million unwanted pregnancies, 24 million induced abortions, and 1.6 million infant deaths.>