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Women at the front line. Are they for real!

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I think all those reasons are bogus. If they can pass the training then off they go. It's about time women looked to even up this 'inequality' rather than only being interested in cushy CEO jobs.

But, what happens to the morale of the unit when their comrade is under threat of rape after capture. The protective males might put themselves in more danger and the female soldiers would be the prize of the enemy as outlandish resources would go towards protecting the women from capture. That seems a handicap to me.

Also, workplace romances are fraught with danger at the best of times, let alone in the front line with all the other stresses.

It's a can of worms having lovers tiffs and love triangles with guns around.

Maybe all female and all male units segregated would work though.
Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 8:31:29 AM
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Oh, gnashing of teeth, here we go again.

I think General Jimbo Wallace has it right.

He says that the Army is for boys who like boys so much they 'get on' with each other 'very well' in foxholes, huddled down together reading their Wallace Everyman Bible as they gain strength from the Lord before breaking whatever commandment it is that says 'though shall not kill (conditions apply)'.

Reading between the lines Jimbo puts up, he's actually saying the Army is for misogynists, misfits and socially inept people that are unable to cooperate with people not like them.

That fear of 'the other' is why they do so well when they ignore the 10 Commandments and kill, with pride and joy, for God Queen and Country.

Why anyone would want to be a part of that 'foxhole' fun is beyond me but why any woman would want to throw herself into a bog of pretty mixed up people just beggars belief.

Still, the Army attracts mostly right wingers so at least they never get challenged by any 'liberal' thoughts, which is why there are no 'poofs' in the Army, isn't it Jimbo?
Posted by The Blue Cross, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 8:44:54 AM
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I couldn't think of anything worse than joining the army and going into battle. I'd be quite happy to keep the home-fires burning while the chaps are taking on the enemy.

I'm often taken aback when I see American women in Afghanistan and Iraq toting backpacks,all sweaty and dusty - and when they're interviewed they take the opportunity to send cheerios to their infants and older children back in the States....sorry, I don't get that all. What would induce a woman to leave her babies to sign up for the opportunity to fight on a foreign battlefield?
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 9:30:23 AM
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Poirot

The US lives in a different universe to the rest of the world but given that the US Army is largely an evangelical Christian army one assumes that the local Baptist pastor (you know, God hates fags) and his ilk are preaching fire and brimstone into the largely empty heads of the US youf and telling them that they serve in two armies, the US one and the Jesus one, in their brave fight against Muslim domination.

So, who can resist a two-for-one bargain, eh?

And they might even give out Tupperware!

Then again, to be a little fairer to these gormless souls you highlight, given that wages for the un and ill educated in the US are below that of their comrades in the UK even, about on a par with a well paid goatherd in Uganda, there is little surprise that the poor in the US join the Army, to get an education if they live, and to get health care supplied to them and their kiddies back home.

Although, frankly, I'd see employer supplied health care as being tainted with at least a whiff of Communism myself, so am shocked to hear the Commie fearing yanks are prepared to accept such a handout and not insist on their Constitutional right to die in the gutter, where many of them live- in the land of the free you can live where ever you damn well choose, sucker!
Posted by The Blue Cross, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 9:52:23 AM
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I read the first post to my girl and waited.

“So many guys are like that, don’t think women can work on cars, fix things in a shed, so many are like that still, everywhere, they still really think we can’t do anything, I hate it.”

So I asked what she would say to change a persons mind who thought that way.

“You can’t they’re stupid.”

Why do you think they are like that?

“Probably had old wanky parents.”

But what do you think about girls dying and boys dying while fighting?

“How many of each have died?”

Well I don’t know, I read recently many girl soldiers commit suicide or it is claimed they have committed suicide during training.

“Yeah cause imagine what the boys are like and how they treat them.”

Hmm.

“What’s his problem with it anyway?”

Well so far it seems to be periods and getting upset if yelled at.

“Does he have a wife?”

I think so.

“Does his wife know that he thinks he is better than her?”

“Guys don’t like being yelled at and so what if we get periods boys have all the same shlt going on and just don’t bleed imagine if the girls did do nothing and said f-it lets go back to the old days and we’ll stay home and cook and not work…”

Would you go to war?

“Maybe the airforce”

But would you want to go to war if you were in the air force?

“Nah there is no point in why they are fighting, they just kill Muslims it’s mean”

And she’s gone. Has been kinda crap raising a girl and telling them they can do anything while everyone else goes nah you can’t you’re just a girl.
Posted by Jewely, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 10:52:43 AM
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TBC,

You're right - it's those from the lowest socio-economic strata who take it on - men and women. They have just enough "education" to have recourse to almost no independent thought at all, which I suppose is a desirable state if one is going to become fodder for the U.S. imperial cause.

The blurring of gender roles in general brings its own challenges.
For some reason we presume that because our technology advances, that we somehow alter our basic drives. Psychologically we can alter our attitudes and set them off on an alternative route, but they always come to a screaming halt when they encounter a primordial urge....strange old world.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:03:56 AM
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