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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 April 2011 9:59:54 AM
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i must correct my math
[but in doing so..find a more reasonable answer] 1 fiat dollar equating one cent coin might be a step too far.. but what if we added one zero..to coin values instead of two.. ie 10 cents becomes one dollar.. 20 becomes $2 [thats what i did i my last post] when i said 1.4 trillion had the math been right..[two zero's instead of one][in my math] the debt would of course have been payable in 140 billion in coin [not the 1.4 trillion..i now see as being more reasonable] adding a 0..to face value of coin brings the wealth..of the poor up by a facter of 10 more than fair... [considering the facter of 100 inflated..[deflated]..below true values IE stolen by money lender collusions if you watched the keiser clips you would have heard max..saying 84 TRILLION..STOLEN..off the global economy stolen..for arround a cent on the dollar... talk about diss-count-ting [find the clip hear the numbers he quoted] no one can think this is fair so fairity demands govt mandate a coin..face value increase by adding an 0 to the value of all coin..[in time minting new coinage] starting with a five cent piece.. with a face value of 50 cents anything below this will be rounded up or down.. like we were told to do..[when they stole our copper]..[coin's] there is room for thinking seriously i keep posting hoping some clever person can find some solution and put it too their masters..in a better..more clear way in a simular manner health seemingly..is reforming [hopefully] cointinues.. Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 April 2011 12:33:05 PM
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treat this as a simulie
of how fixed thinking can change a docter in uk...known for speaking out against the health system was asked to become the president of some docters assosiation its an interesting story it mat relate to how we can bring sustainable change ..to the fiat/paper econonomy Social inequalities in health Professor Sir Michael Marmot is a well-known researcher into the social determinants of health. At a special symposium in Australia he expressed the view that 'Doctors can tackle health inequalities by addressing the causes of the causes of ill health when they see their patients'. Hunger in developed nations Hunger,or food insecurity as it's sometimes called, s not only an issue for the developing world, but also occurs in developed nations such as Australia or the US. Professor Maureen Black from the University of Maryland has investigated this problem. http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2011/04/hrt_20110411.mp3 i post the main link as other important suff is going on finally in health http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/feeds/health.xml http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2011/03/hrt_20110328.mp3 http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2011/03/hrt_20110321.mp3 we can try to lead a whore/s to water but cant make them drink nor of course..make a hoarse think read the signs http://dailyreckoning.com/awaiting-the-zero-hour-of-available-credit/ note re the us debt clock I watch expectantly as the national debt again nears the debt limit, and Zero Hour is just a few weeks away, a term I cleverly used to indicate that available credit will be zero...Maxed out. http://dailybail.com/home/how-large-will-the-us-national-debt-be-in-2015-try-12-millio.html http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/home.asp other stuff http://www.cracked.com/article_19154_the-6-most-ridiculous-things-ever-taxed.html http://dailybail.com/home/clarke-dawe-on-the-bp-oil-spill-the-first-thing-to-do-is-to.html CORN PRICE UP 74% in one year http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=5320 http://dailybail.com/home/attention-congress-close-the-loophole-hedge-fund-manager-joh.html some economic basics http://zippittydodah.blogspot.com/2011/04/visibles-primer-on-basic-economics-and.html http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/15/offshore_banking_and_tax_havens_have http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/04/banks-face-36-trillion-wall-of-debt-imf.html 7 Major Problems That Cause Devastating Financial Asphyiation http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=202295 http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14581 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173# http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OgkjcW0g4&feature=email final warning http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/scientists-warn-that-drugs-of-future.html http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14583 http://track-cell-phones.com/?p=55 http://track-cell-phones.com/?p=52 http://theintelhub.com/2011/04/14/goldman-sachs-credit-default-swaps-jump-as-levin-claims-bank-duped-clients/ http://track-cell-phones.com/?p=28 http://dailybail.com/home/senator-clair-mccaskill-to-goldman-sachs-executives-you-were.html http://dailybail.com/home/steal-billions-like-dimon-blankfein-and-youre-doing-gods-wor.html http://bushstole04.com/bushfascism/bush_nixon_jfk.htm http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14580 http://track-cell-phones.com/?p=33&preview=true http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14579 Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 April 2011 12:54:03 PM
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Understanding the essential simplicity is important, one under god, before you are able to tackle anything more complicated.
>>i will ignore your deliberated over simplifications<< For example, you miss the essential simplicity underlying hyperinflation. It occurs when ordinary folk lose their trust in the currency. And it doesn't matter, when you are buying a loaf of bread, whether you are buying it with metal, or with paper. Think it through for a moment. It is January 1st. You have a metal coin that is worth exactly the price of a loaf of bread - let's say, $2. By July 1st, after hyperinflation has set in, a loaf of bread costs $2 million. How many loaves of bread will you get for your metal coin? You already know the answer, but for some reason you don't understand it. >>pre the hyper inflation...there was a coin after the hyper inflation is the coin the metalic values..of the coin have not changed<< Perhaps an easier way to explain it would be to use the metal itself, rather than bread, as the medium of exchange. It is January 1st. You have a metal coin that is worth exactly the value of its metal content - let's say, $2. By July 1st, after hyperinflation has set in, the same amount of metal costs $2 million. What is the value of the coin in your hand? Does that make it any clearer? And this won't work, I'm afraid. >>adding a 0..to face value of coin brings the wealth..of the poor up by a facter of 10<< You still have the same problem. Changing the face value doesn't alter the relationship between money and goods, or money and wages. You still want your $2 to buy a loaf, whether it is in coins or in paper. Simply calling the same coin $20 won't suddenly allow you to buy ten loaves of bread. Capeesh? Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 16 April 2011 2:06:53 PM
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And just a gentle word of advice, one under god.
I strongly suggest that you get your education on the economy from less biased sources. I took a look at one of your links (I don't have time for more than one or two - and definitely nothing from YouTube) and found this: "Visible's Primer on Basic Economics and Prosperity. ...it was all about Wall Street being able to run roughshod over all legal and moral strictures, with the assistance of the veiled operations of the bloodsucking Federal Reserve. You look at the names of the players from both of these Crime Syndicates and you’re almost surprised when you find a gentile name." It doesn't really matter whether or not you agree that the current problems are caused by a Jewish crime syndicate, as the blog post suggests. What does matter is that you know, right there, that there won't be any skerrick of factual information to be found there about economics, or how money works. Just uninformed blah. Knowledge is power, one under god. Ignorance, on the other hand, can render you powerless, and ultimately paranoid. Take some control back, by trying to understand the simple basics. It is absolutely not necessary to imagine that Finance is all about secret cabals of evil international banksters. Whether Jewish or otherwise. Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 16 April 2011 2:12:32 PM
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lets stop dealing with what if's
a 10 shilling note [hc coombs/wilson] in fine condition.. is valued in my rennicks catolog at 4 dollars now ten shillings = 56 ..point 7.. grams of silver[sterling silver] say i got it in sixpences... in the same catologue worth 75 cents each 20 times 75 cents=$15 dollar's [my catologue is from 1989] since then silver has trippled in price the last 10 shilling note i bought[for a court case] cost me 5 bucks..[in 202] the coin isnt worth 5 bucks its worth 15 bucks way back when just as you havnt got the megs to spare for searches neither do i..[but fel fee to update the prices] im ten bucks ahead [in 1989 values alone] so dont be saying a coins metal deflates the same as banknotes fact is the german deutchmark..[in silver] has its values in silver regardless of how deflated the deutchmark PAPER fell to the twisted egsample you quoted is an absurdity...metal holds an international value silver dont care what coin its in...the fiat inflates but coin is allways holding its metalic value your playing with face values and your getting it wrong on the face of it you seem so clever but your not willing to admit your flogging a dead horse think of metal as a commodity just as food is a commodity silver holds its value not as much as gold but more than copper and nickle but even those are worth the price of the commodity..of which it is made the paper/plastic..your bank/notes are made of have a cost price of 7 cents for the paper/plastic and the ink as previously said,..a one cent piece has copper in it to the value of 5 cents..[in todays metal value] it was stolen by those who knew true value's i hope your not advising people about finance as you dont have a clue of the reality..past the base spin Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 April 2011 3:07:49 PM
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Current European policy on biofuels is causing food shortages and the chopping down of rainforests. That's the view of a leading research organisation. We hear why and put the conclusions to a biofuel businessman and an environmental campaigner.
Plus, the arguments for and against South Africa being allowed to join the BRIC club. And shares in GE fall sharply after a bogus press release does the rounds on Wall Street.
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/wbnews/wbnews_20110414-2230a.mp3
The president of the World Bank tells the BBC that food prices are now at dangerously high levels. Robert Zoellick says soaring prices are a contributory factor to the unrest that's spread across North Africa and Middle East.
Shares of companies doing better than expected in the current economic climate helped the Dow Jones recover the ground it lost after a disappointing set of unemployment numbers. Tom Porcelli from RBC Capital Markets watched the day's action.
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/wbnews/wbnews_20110413-2230a.mp3
President Barack Obama has unveiled how he'd like the US $14tn deficit to be tackled. The debt represents a figure of almost $50,000 for every American. So, can he do it?
not if the rich keep getting their taxes cut
but re valuing the coins..[see previous post]
brings repaynment down to only 1.4 trillion
currently there is 800 billion in coin age in usa coin
clear the debt
and start again
how
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/wbnews/wbnews_20110411-2309a.mp3
The UK is set to reform its banking sector and separate investment banks from their retail counterparts.
[sepperate the fed from banker control
let the senet control the flow of coin
and monetise funds going to banks]
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/wbnews/wbnews_20110411-1804a.mp3
Shaking up the banks?
Preventing a future banking crisis. A UK government panel has proposed reforms to the banking sector,
but are they as ground-breaking as they seem?
[no]
they are playing at fixing the wrong problem
it isnt credit ..but debt..thats going to kill all of us
[isnt bankers getting their bonus NOW..a clue?]
did you watch keiser report
http://youtu.be/-6V9s2o0LNI
http://youtu.be/VL0VhySHjhk
more?
google..ghost-estates
[in china ireland spain usa]
look how japan went..at least their peons
were wealthy enough..to buy THEIR govt's bonds