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Posted by one under god, Sunday, 17 April 2011 1:02:51 PM
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That's absolutely right, one under god.
>>hyper-inflation..is local..*[so far] like in zimbawe recently.. it left the global/others in the main..not affected the metal is worth..the inflated price ONLY in zimbabwe*..the metal equaled the zimbawe/price increase for the rest of the world the metal in the coin stayed the same 'price *as priced in..*NON zimbawe money<< Which is exactly the point I made. You are now in a position to take this knowledge, and apply it to the examples I gave you. Concentrate on that loaf of bread - which is what everyone was forced to do in times of hyperinflation - and all will soon become clearer. Once you have followed that line of thought, try to understand it in terms of your "add-a-zero" plans for our coinage. Rather than think of it in an abstract sense, work through a concrete example. Today you have a twenty-cent coin, ten of which will buy you a loaf of bread. Tomorrow, you go to the same shop, only this time you expect the baker to give you a loaf in exchange for only one coin. Would he sell you the loaf? But equally importantly, think for a moment of the timing. You, in your role as Prime Minister, announce that on 30th June, at midnight, all 10c coins will be worth $1. What would you do, when you heard this announcement? What would everyone else do? What would the Banks/shopkeepers/bus drivers do? >>i realise its a seemingly huge step but with the next intrest..[inflation cycle] the metal value of the coin..will outstrip its face values<< The only problem is, your proposal cannot on its own stop this from happening. Posted by Pericles, Sunday, 17 April 2011 5:15:09 PM
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thanks for finally getting down to the nuts and bolts [practicalities]..of the revaluation
first it would need to be globally and be sen as restoring that inflation has taken away inflation really is theft but its affect is worse on the poor the change would happen overnight to stop things like hoarding especially by shopkeepers but as with all these things its better to let a few have more of a gain than others [every sceme has its weakness.. but by far most small change is held by those able to save only the pennies...[by this method all the other hoarded copper cents will get flushed out] they will then have a value of 10 cents and twenty cents[which is only just a bit less than the copper they hold].. but the thing is there is returned a buffer between value of the coins metal.. and inflation constantly eating away at its face value by twisted money market value's based on the paper values demeaning the coin face values away into nothing i did fine out of the pennies and cents [in copper values].. and will also do fine out of the nickle values just as im doing fine with the silver values of the pre decimal coins i knew to hold on to but its time the poor got their bailout not just those in the know i could advise that the mint link you posted should be looked at again..by those thinking a dollar is only worth a dollar.. like say the dollar proof coin valued at 50$ [because its made of silver].. but on its face is...*one dollar[face value] those not knowing the difference..will find the dollar.. and pass it on for a dollar.. [when any dealer would happily give them 30 dollars for that..*one dollar coin] meaning a dollar should be at least equal to 50 dollars making[changing] it to $10 is a fair resolution to a masive colluded deception.. [done upon the holders of coin globally for far too long] Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 April 2011 8:46:16 AM
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todays crop
which will hurt more..for longer austerity 'measures'[see link] or re-valuating coin to re-store..its true value[read previous posts] from link Anarchy erupts in Greece as austerity bites http://www.blacklistednews.com/Anarchy_erupts_in_Greece_as_austerity_bites/13550/0/0/0/Y/M.html As explosions boom, the town's loudspeakers blare: "Attention! Attention! We are under attack!" Air-raid sirens wail through the streets, mingling with the frantic clanging of church bells. Clouds of tear gas waft between houses as helmeted riot police move in to push back the 'rebels'. This isn't a war zone, but a small town just outside Athens. And while its fight is about a rubbish dump,..it captures Greece's angry mood..over its devastated economy. diva-stated by who? who got the value/pleasure who got the debt/pain i guess if we only read/listen/obey.. 'media' we will never know..and the pain will simply go away? it begins with a powerfull lobby http://www.redress.cc/americas/ldavidson20110418 and threats to 'media' http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/17/gagging-order-journalists-jail giving special powers http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=5334 making special laws http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/04/nullification-interview-with-zombie.html numbers cant lie but accounting can twist or not mention certain numbers control the media+con-troling the numbers http://theintelhub.com/2011/04/17/inside-the-numbers/ extort money and taxes from the poor and ignorant [the unrepresented swill..the great unwashed] http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14612 make deals[that really dont mean anything when war dont need budgeting/nor accounting for] http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/geithner-certain-of-debt-limit-deal.html keep making deals and pr spin to cover other oppressions they are only numbers http://uruknet.com/?p=m76911&hd=&size=1&l=e http://uruknet.com/?p=m76915&hd=&size=1&l=e http://uruknet.com/?p=m76916&hd=&size=1&l=e http://uruknet.com/?p=m76917&hd=&size=1&l=e http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24327 http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24354 to hide the real crimes http://dailybail.com/home/where-are-the-wall-street-prosecutions-gretchen-morgenson-ag.html http://dailybail.com/home/tim-geithner-says-the-united-states-is-insolvent.html http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/interview-with-carlos-latuff-divided-palestinians-are-weak/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/16/bahrain-eyewitness-riot-police the real rule is do as you chose http://dailybail.com/home/busted-watch-tarp-republican-paul-ryan-begging-congress-to-v.html http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24357 only when there is nothing left to win will we have nothing left to loose Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 April 2011 10:59:44 AM
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http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/04/gold-fever-and-nuclear-meltdownwhat-do.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fbi-counterterror-official-al-qaeda-thrives-dictators-fall/story?id=13386531 http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/04/13/real_estate-financials-us-foreclosure-reimbursed_8406573.html Gov't orders 14 lenders to reimburse homeowners The Fed said it believed financial penalties were "appropriate" and that it planned to levy fines in the future. All three regulators said they would review the foreclosure audits. Commentary: Translation: Every time the bankers steal a $250,000 house and get caught, they have to pay a $25,000 fine, but nobody goes to jail! SO DONT BE SAYING GOVT CANT ADD A ZERO it can steal it from the poor its time they got a break and still the collusions go on http://torrentfreak.com/new-zealand-government-rushes-through-controversial-anti-piracy-law-110413/ New Zealand Government Rushes Through Controversial Anti-Piracy Law The New Zealand government has surprised the public and even some MPs by moving to rush through its controversial 3 strikes-style legislation today. The new measures will allow for users to be disconnected from the Internet for up to 6 months, based on infringement claims from copyright holders http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110401/23300013745/drm-accused-sending-personal-info-to-help-with-licensing-shakedown.shtml DRM. Is there nothing evil it can't do? Between installing rootkits and propping open back doors, DRM is a copyright enforcer's best friend. Miguel Pimentel, a Boston-area architect, believes he's stumbled across its latest trick: extracting $150,000 from your wallet via a quick unannounced "phone home"..to the nearest copyright cop [ps we allready got it in oz] read the nbn legislation the fox rules the henhouse cause the hooker polititions..let em in Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 April 2011 11:00:13 AM
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I think you may be wandering further away from the point, one under god. But no matter.
You would do well, though, to think through the numbers and equations that you spray around. Here's one from earlier: >>currently there is 800 billion in coin age in usa coin<< There are 307 million people in the US. Simple mathematics tells you that this number would mean that every man, woman and child is carrying around $2,600 in loose change. Does that sound feasible to you? Or are you including the value of numismatists' collections? If so, it would be important to ensure that the amount you select is consistent. Is it "cumulative face value", "aggregate value of metal content" or "market value of individual pieces at auction". Whichever is the case, I doubt very much whether the average Joe has more than, say, five bucks in change in his pocket. Your instant tenfold multiplication, with the best will in the world, is hardly going to alleviate poverty. Could buy a round of drinks, I suppose. Posted by Pericles, Monday, 18 April 2011 2:44:00 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktmWeynsd-Y
more spin
Currency Comptroller Takes Enforcement Action
Against Bank of America, Citibank, HSBC, JPMorgan Chase,
MetLife Bank, PNC, U.S. Bank, and Wells Fargo.
http://c7.beforeitsnews.com/story/564/977/Comptroller_Takes_Enforcement_Action_Against_Bank_of_America,_Citibank,_HSBC,_JPMorgan_Chase,_MetLife_Bank,_PNC,_U.S._Bank,_and_Wells_Fargo..html
"These comprehensive enforcement actions, coordinated among the federal banking regulators, require major reforms in mortgage servicing operations,"said acting Comptroller of the Currency John Walsh.
[pre pare for the other spin]
when they go back to business as usual
Commentary:
Trabnslation:"This is an election-year wrist-slap to wave in the media, but it won't restore a single stolen house to its rightful owner."
aint it funny
when govt fines collusion
those actually ripped off dont get a cent
and the 'fine'; costs less than they made by colluding their fraud
ie the poor never win
get used to it
Love in Disguise in a World of Lies.
http://lesvisible.blogspot.com/2011/04/love-in-disguise-in-world-of-lies.html
The thing about lying is that it’s habitual.
The problem with lying is that it alters your existence
to fit the lies and eventually you are surrounded by them.
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14603
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-resorting-to-fear-to-raise-debt.html
This is what happens in insulated realities like Wall Street; the military, religion, entertainment. In both Wall Street and the military, the end justifies the means. This is how you get a certain kind of amoral psychopath, a flesh pressing gladhander; much like a politician.
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/04/35-statistics-that-show-average.html
The stock market is a lie to begin with and relies upon a mysterious sort of trust. You see that when the trust is challenged or fails at its purpose that the system has a crash.
http://dailybail.com/home/how-the-ny-fed-under-stephen-friedman-tim-geithner-pressured.html
Politicians are the indirect liars. They’re all about money too but they’re feathering the nests of their future; a nest they foul upon arrival.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/04/us-failed-state-because-it-wont.html
Rand Paul"Church Never Asked For More Than 10%
I Don't Know Why Government Should Get More!
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14590
http://dailybail.com/home/nyt-tim-geithner-convinced-ny-ag-andrew-cuomo-to-back-off-wa.html
to back off..from prosi-cute-ing
many more links
but im sick
and tired
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
do your own due diligence