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The Forum > General Discussion > Big business -It is the level of uncertainty that is the problem.

Big business -It is the level of uncertainty that is the problem.

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rectub What is your defenition of wasting money.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 10 March 2011 7:52:58 AM
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>>rectub What is your defenition of wasting money.Posted by 579

Well, where do I start.

QLD Government.

1. The bicentennial bridge, quoted at around 13 million, actually cost $63 million.

2. Lang park. About five times the original quote.

2. Brisbane floating walkway

3. Traveston dam. Uoops, we forgot to seek permission first.

4. The bungled health pay debacle.

Billions, never ever to be seen again.

Need I go on.

Federal Labor.
Solar, insulation, fuel watch @*&%$, sorry, fell off my chair because I was laughing so much, grocery watch, Copenhagen, stimulus...

Need I go on.

Personal.
Grog, ciggs, gambling, often at the expense of kids who were actually the intended recipients of that welfare.

Now the real doozy of them all is those of you who thinks it's all ok because at least it has all helped create jobs.

Boy I hope you respond to this!
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 11 March 2011 5:51:54 PM
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Sorry, typo.

1. Was the Goodwill Bridge.

My concern is that this type of waste and miss management simply does not occur in the 'real world' and if it does, the company goes broke. Or rather, as happens in most cases, they simply refuse to pay the inflated bill. Not governments though.

As usual, in government, those who sign off on these 'stuff ups' are simply not accountable. So the waste continues.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 12 March 2011 6:13:50 AM
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re tubbers quote..""There is enough evidence to suggest that simply increasing wages because times are tough..""

mate thats insane
who is suggesting increasing wages
"BECAUSE TIMES ARE TOUGH'

were you paying attention its because 'times are tough'
that workers didnt get wage increases
recall howards wages czarr..etc

then you go on
""results in businesses finding an alternative in the likes of China.""

that might be your spin
[based on a clear lie..[errant precept]
but the fact remains

HENRY ford..decided to pay his WORKERS reasonable wages
[about double the going rate]..

why?..
he said he wanted to produce product..
HIS WORKERS COULD AFFORD TO BUY...!

it was that REVOLUTION
[not the industrial revolution alone]
that MADE AMERICA GREAT..

if china workers CANT afford to buy the product they make
it all falls in a heap...[it was japenese workers buying their own product..and banking extra wages in the bank ..that made japan great]

that it is today in ruins
and wont rebuilt..anywhere near as great as it was only yesterday
is a reflection of the greed is god..that is killing the worjkers skilling and willing to work a days work..for a days pay

888 mate
not 24/7

leave loading and a day of rest FOR EVERYONE
not extra work to pay extra to the bankers

if busines wants certainty
buy worker-loyalty..

[without workers
there can be no business]

sack bosses*
before sacking a single worker

we need capitalists to [put up the monety
and workers to do the work

we dont need ignorant bosses
getting bonus..for just warming a board seat
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 March 2011 7:39:46 AM
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Ok god botherer, I to can play 'name games'.

You said >>mate thats insane
who is suggesting increasing wages
"BECAUSE TIMES ARE TOUGH'

Explain then why wages increase, if not to keep pace with the cost of living?

>>that might be your spin

No spin about it mate, it's fact. Many businesses are still doing business, it's just that they no longer employ locals to do the work.

Wake up and smell the roses mate!

>>that MADE AMERICA GREAT..

Arr, which decade are we talking about. My recollection is the they are flat broke.

>>if china workers CANT afford to buy the product they make
it all falls in a heap

They don;t buy these products, they export them.

>>leave loading and a day of rest FOR EVERYONE

Just remember, you can have anything you want, so long as you are prepared to pay for it, and pay for it we have.

>>if busines wants certainty
buy worker-loyalty..
Not possible without a level playing field.

>>[without workers
there can be no business]

Correct. It's just that they don't have to be locals. do they! And that's my point.

The jobs are still there, it's just that Australians have 'out priced' themselves and no longer represent value for money, esspecially when the floor sweeper is on $25 an hour.

>>we need capitalists to [put up the monety
and workers to do the work

Which is exactly what happens. Capitalists are here, the workers are in the likes of China and India.

I hope you enjoy your 'leave loading' and smaller working hours.

The Chinese are grateful for your never give in attitude.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 12 March 2011 9:24:42 PM
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re chub
note quote..""they don't have to be locals...do they!""

when the industrial revolution BEGAN
there was no 'other'[non locals]..to buy their product

*no 'richer country to export to"

so it was either..supply the needs of the workers/consumers
and their ability to buy your product..
or have no sales for your product..

And that's my point.

""The jobs are still there,""
no they arnt..[some of the factories are still there
but the machines and knowledge..thats gone overseas

""it's just that Australians have 'out priced' themselves""
thats bull...[many workers get more than aussie workers]
http://www.success-and-culture.net/articles/percapitaincome.shtml
and pay far less for basics like housing/food..and get more holidays and shorter work lives..[and buiggerr pensions and better health care]

your just spinning your generalised spin
without providing any proof

how many jobs you created this year
last year..

whats your proof?

in my opinion
[your just a paid to blogg opinion blogger for the system]

talk is cheap
there arnt many sweeping floor's at wollies for 25 bucks an hour

by the way
average wage was howhards buzz word[spin]
the real key is minimum wage..

[in usa its been fixed at +/- 6.50]
how come your yank tank is so expensive
why arnt the yankies in full employment?

you can buy 3 yanki homes for the price of one aussie home
[and still the real unemploy-ment rate is over 20 percent
even officially its still over 10%]

so just via usa numbers
your loose spin/bias.. is revealed and refuted
the rich pay the least they can get away with..thats a fact

capitalists park their credit where they get the most return
thus the vile in the world gets its funding[who ya think pays for wars?
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 13 March 2011 8:13:56 AM
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