Ybgirp

The last thing I would do is suggest that that is not an “other social issue” and of course they are human.

As regards the merits or otherwise of homosexuality and what is or isn’t humane etc. you realize that many atheists debate such things also. You as an atheist might argue with someone from the paedophile party who used those types of arguments.

I was simply taking issue with the way it was lumped with other social issues as if the religion stands for racial prejudice etc. Gentiles are accepted but homosexuality as a behaviour is rejected. You may consider rejection of homosexual behaviour negative and Christians must take responsibility for the belief. However comments that add misrepresentions of Christian belief slanders Christians.

I consider science to be a process that throws new light but never proves. I consider that properly conducted research adds weight to a hypothesis. If not properly conducted it is worthless.

Rhys

Atheists seem to be trying an awful lot harder to convert people than Christians these days.

NJPB said:
Atheists seem to be trying an awful lot harder to convert people than Christians these days.

Big grin. Not really, we couldn’t care less what you believe in. We do not try to convert – that’s near impossible. It simply means you are seeing so many people waking up to the futility of religion and are ditching the churches. There just happens to be more of us these days and you are beginning to realise the writing is on the wall

Mjpb, the bible's more than hypothetical, the old testament's plagiarised fiction derived from the Veda, Egyptian texts as well as other earlier parchments and documents. The only original text of the new testament is a copy of a many previous copies, written 300 years after the supposed events, consisting of hearsay and fiction. If you truly study theological history, you'll realise the fake it really is.

As Rhys says, the reason you think non believers are trying to convert you, is theres more of us now, your belief's a dying violent fallacy. The attitude of monotheism when it comes to the ways of the world, are disgusting, beyond barbaric, despotic and depraved.

This is widely seen by the control religion has over our governments by stealth, these followers of god are involving us in a growing monotheistic factional worldwide war. The only outcome being, massive destruction and death.

If you study the old testament, you'll see it's filled with a violent decadent god, who doesn't hesitate to destroying any who disagree. Which is no different to today

The most common feature of the followers of Yahweh, is their obsession to constantly lie to themselves and others, in a futile attempt to get some form of veracity for their disgusting approach to life.

There's intelligent people on the planet now mjpb, not easily fooled by glib snake oil god salesmen, spewing out discrimination and bigotry. So this time your ilk may almost wipe out the life forms of this planet, but the end result will be gods full unmasking as what he was originally known as by the followers of Abraham and others, Yahweh, god of war.

Hopefully the sane people of this country will wake up before the religious lying morons controlling us, completely destroy our way of life. Luckily we're coming to a federal election, anyone voting for the lib/lab monotheistic parties, will be voting for enslavement to the religious elite and war.

This is evidenced by their desperation to privatise and give control of our assets to themselves and their religious backers, before their agenda is fully revealed.

mjbp, I'm not sure that I follow your tortured logic.

Are you saying that, because the Judeo/Christian god is omnipotent that he has the sole discretion to kill whenever he thinks it's warranted?

No wonder so many of his followers have the same 'might is right' attitude to deal with anyone who disagrees with them.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

This is the same god who declares, 'thou shall not kill', 'turn the other cheek' etc; the same god who gave his only son (well himself actually) that mankind might be saved; the same god whose followers declare to be the bearer of hope, peace and love; the saviour of the world.

Was there a spelling error and you really meant dysfunctional, not omnipotent, or are you simply too blinkered to face reality on in its own terms?

Re: atheists trying to convert anyone.

I think you’ve misrepresented or misread the beginning of this topic. It is rather the superstitious in our society who force the rest of us to tug the forelock whenever there is a public forum. It is expected that god has his place in parliament, at funerals, in courts etc, ad infinitum.

If that isn’t bad enough, a massive chunk of our taxes is directed to superstitious organisations, including those who brainwash our children.

It is all such a sad waste of energy and resources, precious energy and resources we need to secure the future health of our beleaguered planet.

You are free to follow your superstition, but, please do it behind closed doors and only involve consenting adults. Our children’s minds are too precious to be contaminated by your murderous gods.

mjbp, I'm not sure that I follow your tortured logic.

Are you saying that, because the Judeo/Christian god is omnipotent that he has the sole discretion to kill whenever he thinks it's warranted?

No wonder so many of his followers have the same 'might is right' attitude to deal with anyone who disagrees with them.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

This is the same god who declares, 'thou shall not kill', 'turn the other cheek' etc; the same god who gave his only son (well himself actually) that mankind might be saved; the same god whose followers declare to be the bearer of hope, peace and love; the saviour of the world.

Was there a spelling error and you really meant dysfunctional, not omnipotent, or are you simply too blinkered to face reality on its own terms?

Re: atheists trying to convert anyone.

I think you’ve misrepresented or misread the beginning of this topic. It is rather the superstitious in our society who force the rest of us to tug the forelock whenever there is a public forum. It is expected that god has his place in parliament, at funerals, in courts etc, ad infinitum.

If that isn’t bad enough, a massive chunk of our taxes is directed to superstitious organisations, including those who brainwash our children.

It is all such a sad waste of energy and resources, precious energy and resources we need to secure the future health of our beleaguered planet.

You are free to follow your superstition, but, please do it behind closed doors and only involve consenting adults. Our children’s minds are too precious to be contaminated by your murderous gods.

mjpb uses the old christian lie of trying to equate homosexuality to pedophilia.
In some research I have been doing for a proposed documentary, I have recently discovered a strong link between christianity and pedophilia.
Whilst it's true that not all christians are pedophiles, the fact is that, in Australia at least,
ALL PEDOPHILES ARE CHRISTIAN!
The same is true for rape, although there is some competition from islam in recent rape cases, however
ALL RAPISTS ARE RELIGIOUS!
This raises the questions of why the links exists and how we can cure religion?
I'd say it has a lot to do with the religious oppression of human sexuality and freedoms of expression.
If we truly wish to eliminate pedophilia, rape and other forms of sexual abuse, then we must tackle the problem at it's foundation, which is religion.