Sadly tis true Belly.

Just as a bi line I have been listening to Keneally and Ofarrell over the past couple of weeks on a radio segment and all I can say is that I am now looking at independents as my State choice in March.

No talent, no vision, and no answers, their minders should keep both of them off the air. I might add the next Fed election might shape up the same for me.

rehctub:>> Well my concern is whether or not anyone else will want to govern as I hate to think where we will be in three years from now, if the past term is anything to go by.<<

If we were going into generational debt for water infrastructure and the population decentralization that would follow it, or national health, or national security, I would have no issues, every growing business needs a health overdraft.

But $40 billion on trenches and cable is an ego cost that is how much the current Labor leadership will make us pay for their ego. We have already paid $700 Million for their asylum seeker ego this year. The Pacific solution is still sitting there, so now we have knife fights in the Darwin Motels that we put the illegal combatants up in. They will do well on the streets of our cities, given they are carving each other up five minutes after arriving.

SM
The ALP stopped being a party for socialists many years ago, just as the Coalition moved from supporting competition and small business at the behest of the big end of town and both parties set about privatising publicly owned assets and kowtowing to the super economies on free trade.

Even if you keep repeating it over and over, the general populace is smarter than you imply. In truth both parties need a good kick in the rear to bring them back to the centre/left where all good social democracies should sit.

SOG
Labor could easily recoup some of these losses (yes they were ill managed) by reinstating the mining tax, close tax loopholes, withdraw from Afghanistan and stop buying shonky defence materiels to keep in with your mates.

I would like to say I expect to be able to use the communication technology for this century connected to fibre my home.

In the last century I expected like most others to have the copper wire that gave me accessed to the communication technology of the time. A phone connected to the copper wire in my home. How many today rely on that phone today to carry out our day-to-day transactions. I think you will find the web has taken over many of the roles we used our phone for.

I expected that I would have a road that goes past my front door, which also cost more in Australia than many other countries.

When I was a child, we used kerosene lights, refrigerators and a car battery to power the radio. Today I, among others expect a power line to my front door. It cost more in this country to provide electricity than many other countries with higher population density.

Early last century we endured the toilet in the back yard that was emptied once or twice a week. We then came to the conclusion that sewage to the greater majority was necessary, mainly on health grounds. We now demand that this is provided before homes are built. I am sure that cost more in Australia than many other countries.

We as Australians expect public transport to be able to move around the country. We find it is much more expensive, owing to the vast distances to provide highways and rail lines.

I want to see Australia to continue to grow. This cannot happened if we do not provide the necessaary infrastructure, that our children and grandchildren need

Flo what you say is valid in regard to moving with the times, but what is the right move in regard to a technology that changes every year.

This government has made the word billion meaningless, it had a worth pre Kevin. It was a scary number that you hoped did not grow, but now every Labor fiscal initiative is in billions. That’s what freaks me out regarding ABN, the billions part.

We built the Snowy for $6 odd billion in current value, consider the sheer scope and consider the return of the Snowy. Then consider what we are going to get for $40 billion,....cables.

"Wikki
The Scheme was managed by the Snowy Mountains Hydro-electric Authority, and took 25 years to build, from 1949 to 1974,[8] at the cost (at that time) of AUD$820 million; a dollar value equivalent in 1999 and 2004 to AUD$6 billion."

America who has the population to support cables went wireless the other month. There are options that cost less than a third and deliver the same level of speed.

Flo there is no sense in spending that money on faster net, there are other infrastructure issues that are about our survival not our entertainment that need to be addressed now.

Our population has grown by 50% since 1980, that’s an incredible figure, but our transport systems are still 1980, our hospitals are still 1980, our roads are still 1980, but our internet will be quick.

To plan for the future one must first seek to find the needs of those who will be here in the future, our youth.

They do not use the Internet, at least as we know it, they use their mobiles for almost everything.

Furthermore, do you all think these mobile companies are going to just sit back and watch the 'land liners' take a huge chunk of their market share, no way, they will go down fighting.

I have three words when thinking about the NBN.

INSULATION, SCHOOLS, INCOMPITENCE, and labor expect us the trust them to get this right.

Sorry, to bigger gamble for my liking.