A fair bit of vic; is already on fiber optic, My telephone is voip. No rental, and less than two cents / min; to England. Local calls are ten cents, no time limit.
Pulls telstra into line.

Belly,

It looks like it is just starting to dawn on people that technology is advancing rapidly. Just as mobile phones now take the majority of calls in spite of being more expensive and lower quality, wireless is expanding rapidly. It is becoming a threat not only to fixed lines, but mobile phones as mobile VOIP phones come on line at rates that challenge Telstra's fixed line rates.

New compression and other technology has meant that data rates and number of users per tower (transmitter) have increased 10 fold in the last decade which increases service and reduces cost with almost no capital.

The NBN is will only be complete in 2020, and there is a very good chance that much of it will be obsolete.

The sanitized business case shows that the NBN will return a miserly profit based on 70% uptake of its services. 65% will wipe out that profit, and 60% will never see a profit. Can anyone here honestly put his hand on his heart and say that in 10 yrs time that 2/3rds of the population will still be on fixed lines?

If you can't then the NBN is destined to fail. If it fails it will become the defining hall mark of Labor for decades.

I at least in part agree with you Shadow Minister, we are progressing very fast and in time wireless or even satellite may make this obsolete, every thing suffers that fate.
Coppers age insures it too is being out dated.
However I left land lines on cost ,our Friend above saves heaps on his computer linked calls.
Today wireless costs more than landlines.
Telstra will continue to be in it for the cash.
NBN will give me more for less my hobby is ham radio, if it was possible, costs or not I would use that now it is not here.

Yes, you are probably right Shadow Minister, but worrying something will be obsolete in 10 years does not mean we should not start initiating it.
We would never advance our technology at all if we didn't.

Yuyitsu, I doubt we have this great conspiracy happening in Canberra where all the friends and kin of politicians advocating the NBN are waiting in the wings to take jobs and perks after it is implemented!
Lol :)

Where is the working demonstration model? From what I have seen Tasmania is nothing to skite about: It seems crazy to be thinking about a national program before it has been proven to work on a smaller scale. And is the cost estimate likely to be accurate, or will it fall well short. It would be unfortunate to nobble the copper network and then discover that Kevs big idea needs another 75 billion to make it work. After the education revolution and insulation debacles I am not filled with confidence.

WE NEED, WE NEED, WE NEED....../TO GET RID OF THIS GOVERNMENT.