Well AGIR, I wasn't really interested in your' assertions that this mildly amusing article constituted a hate campaign towards God believers up to now.

Then I read that you were working towards changing the RRT 2001 act?

I looked it up, and must say I didn't know much about that act, although I am a big fan of what it is obviously trying to achieve.

I can also see why you wouldn't like it.

Why not start another thread on the subject?

For those who are interested, here is the definition and a website to check out:
" The Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001 seeks to promote conciliation and resolve tensions between people who may vilify others on the grounds of race or religion and those who may be vilified."
http://www.education.vic.gov.au/studentlearning/programs/multicultural/schrrtact01.htm#7

Hi Suz .. I'm interested in your basis for thinking I don't like the Act.

If it was removed or repealed.. none of us could lay glove on the likes of Deveny... wouldn't that be a liberating thought ? :)

For Perilous' benefit, while I can see his downplaying of Deveny's intent as a reflection of his general downplaying of anything which upsets people of faith (i.e.Christian_faith)...I have 2 things to say.. First, that the issue is not so much about how a non believer sees the material in question, but how believers do. Secondly, I find it curious that when factual information about Islam is presented here.. Perilous tends to jump up and down like a mechical bull in a saloon about hate speech and he 'ampllifies' rather than minimizing it.(a most interesting pattern)

But to answer Pericles question about which part offends me most?

Well the Title is good choice, but this rates high as well:

Considering Deveny's public show "God is BS" yep..that's also offensive.. and Mocking? well.. it's stuff like that which gives meaning to the term itself.

//? Devoid of empathy (Kill in the name of God, etc).//

"Devoid of emphathy" ? hmmmmm...meaning errr like an SS Guard at Auschwitz? that's pretty close to hate speech.
Remember.. the test is

-Public Interest
-Genuine
-Good faith
-Reasonable.

For the exemptions to apply.

"God is BS" ....how does that rate on each of those ? (Suz ?)

I can accept "I don't believe in God" and "To me..belief in God seems irrational" "Belief in God? I'm not buying it"... all are ok.

"Pathalogical self/Narcissistic personality disorder"...are not.

replied the questiions ..in my first/post
the lords prayer ..was reply to comment

not to lecture..
but to point out how divided jesus-house is

clearly there is no sex limitations ..re/god
so saying father ..is purely custom
it has its own learnings..

but so to saying god ..is mother
or nature ..included's gods/nurture..

i love jesus..but find no proof
that he is any more 'god' than you

i love mahaMOUD..MARY BAKER SWEDENBERG AND BUDDA..
BUT THEY ARE NO MORE/NO LESS THAN PEOPLE..[damm caploc]

we now have all the teachers ..of the past to draw on ..to get to know the personal-god..one to one..as jesus planed

it would be shame on us ..if we didnt think seriously
see that god ..sent many messangers

we know jesus was to be called..god with us
as his name isnt emmanuel..that important bit ..must mean more

we know ..that we do to the least...we do to the most
its clear we have an inner-god..
just like we have an inner-voice ..that is both good and bad

gods/spirit ..is within us all
within the least..sustaining them their life
as much as in the most..

there really is ..no excuse for ignorance ...nor creed

jesus told us we can know god ..one to one..a personal good
we each ..have[gods]..living-spirit inside us
without god ...there could be no us*

we didnt make god
he sustains us ..our living
he isnt some far off judge
he is the inner being ..with-in ..all our beings

if thats opinion
or if thats simply belief
its not preaching
..nor deneying he even egsists

if a religeon gave me the facts
or even something resembling truth
or even if govt or bankers did the right thing
or even if i had had a better education..or a peer-based moderation
things might be different..but they wernt to be..

i thus see the things
..as god wanted me to see..
or as my life ..formed me ..to be..

but dont dissmiss god
even in thee

only knowing the truth ..from lie..can set you free

sort the tares ..from the wheat..
its near harvest-time

AGIR<""God is BS" ....how does that rate on each of those ? (Suz ?)"

Yes I agree this would be offensive to God-believers, and to all those that are offended by swearing in general.
If it was written on this forum as a form of malice towards God-believers, I would recommend it be deleted.

Just as I would recommend that any comments about homosexuality that include derogatory terms such as 'abomination', 'freak', 'abhorrent',
'deviant' or 'depravity' etc, be immediately deleted.

The same goes for any malicious racial slurs against any group of humans

Suze:

I completely agree with you. Telling AGIR that, "Jesus loves you, but everyone else thinks you're an arsehole," would be very offensive, and I simply wouldn't do it.

Boaz, now you are concerned that:

>>the issue is not so much about how a non believer sees the material in question, but how believers do<<

[Incidentally, DreamOn, I have never, ever, called him "Boazy". And if he had changed his methods at the same time as changing his nym, I would happily embrace both]

Unfortunately, you do not practice that which you preach, having on numerous occasions described Muslims in a highly derogatory manner. This you invariably justify with selected quotations from the Qur'an, on the presumption that because these quotations exist, no Muslim can possibly be insulted by your selection of them.

Conversely, when faced with entirely analogous extracts from your own Bible, you claim that - shazam! - we are suddenly dealing with allegories and metaphors.

You are doing it again, here:

>>I find it curious that when factual information about Islam is presented here.. Perilous tends to jump up and down like a mechical bull in a saloon about hate speech and he 'ampllifies' rather than minimizing it.(a most interesting pattern)<<

Factual information? That'll be the day.

Sauce, Boaz, should be equally available for both goose, and gander.

When ascribing violent tendencies to religion, you consistently avoid the notion that your own does not have an exactly spotless history.

Witness the fact that you studiously ignore the point I made about Northern Ireland...

"...you have an entire six counties full of corpses, old and young, male and female, whose only crime was to be Catholic/Protestant*

*delete one"

You claim that the title of the article gives you offence.

a) I don't believe you. You are simply presenting some confected outrage.

b) there is nothing in the title that could possibly give a normal christian-in-the-street even the slightest pause.

And please, next time you start a thread, try to be specific about what you want to discuss. All this hunt-the-thimble approach to topics is extremely tedious.