Deveny's poking

Fun at God, not spouting hate

At anybody real

Stg... no problem mate :) thanx for your comments.

Shintaro.. 'that' is exactly my point...she IS "poking fun at"..another word for that is "mocking"..or .."ridiculing" or "holding up to public contempt"

It should be remembered...that there are 3 corpses of schoolgirls in the ground in Indonesia who were beheaded simply for being 'Christian' (to pick just one of uncountable examples)... so.. I don't really think that deeply held convictions that people are prepared to die for, or forced to die for.. are things to be 'made fun of'. Disagree by all means.. argue persuasively that such ideas are irrational... absurd..silly... all good... but it must be an evidentiary or argumentative process..not a 'mocking' process.

RE-FOCUS could we have some thoughts/comments about the 2 questions I raised in the earlier post please ?

1/ "Is the 'Christian' God implied/intended"?
2/ "Is she mocking/ridiculing that God"?

little wonder parliment gets so much wrong

god is beyond sex
is neither father nor mother as such
yet is both father and mother

so right from the first word..the prayer goes astray

its unlikely jesus got it that wrong
but does explain the need for an anti-christ
to rebut the clever editing of his life and what he really said or intended

jesus was to be called emmanuel
god with us..[meaning god WITH-in us all]
thus not a 'fat-her in heaven'...its basic stuff

but with god ..'in heaven'
we can ignore the truth of god within all of us
can tghus name call others..[recall that we do TO THE LEAST ..we do to the most?]..thats because god works unseen..doing all the things that sustain life..IN all of us..even the most vile..

its sad that even our leaders have been decieved
and the members in govt dont even stand..when its read

now ..even worse ..they talk of the first people and THEIR lands
god owns aLL LAND... he made the dust from the waters all land belongs to him ..he is the landlord supreem..

but the media and its opinion pieces..in lue of real NEWS
or worse lack of researched investagative reporting
and explasing and monitoring..the govt doing their elitist torying

raping the masses with ever more taxes
policing morals in lue of policing crime

bah
why bother
this is satans realm
its time we learned truths..but that cant happen..in this realm

Al
I understand your wish to defend 'God' and Christianity but remember Deveney is an atheist. She cannot mock a 'God' that she does not believe exists. For my take on it, Deveney is describing the nature of God as it is written in many texts including the Bible in her rather strident and comedic style (she is a comedienne).

The theist and non-theist seem destined to offend either intentionally or unintentionally, one deemed to be mocking a faith or deity and one the lack of a moral framework and an implication of lack of morality.

Both argue that 'truth will out' and that is what Deveney attempts, just as the theist may insist on the existence of a deity.

There's still not much mileage in taking a logical approach to a Boaz piece, pelican, but props for trying.

>>Both argue that 'truth will out' and that is what Deveney attempts, just as the theist may insist on the existence of a deity.<<

The approach here is to encourage the belief that Deveney's article is an example of "hate speech" against Christians. Hence the rapid shift from the initial broad question... "how you would describe the article", to the more direct challenge "Do you think the article mocks Christian belief and Christians?"

He hasn't changed much in the time we have known him, has he? Boaz_David, Polycarp, no_THIS_ismeBD and ALGOREisRICH - all pushed the same barrow in the exact same way.

So it is still best not to take him at all seriously when he tries to get provocative via a seemingly pointless question. It only encourages him.

Her appearances on Q&A have been cringe-worthy and I have a lot of sympathy for the long-suffering editors whose responsibility it has been over the years to get her stuff into some shape for publishing.

The article is older than Methuselah. Dusted off, it is still bait and smelly bait at that. Nothing to commend it at all. Move on I suggest.