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Do you genuinely not see the problem with a reply such as this, whistler? It damages your credibility at so many levels.

>>hi Pericles, thanks but i've already documented an oversufficiency of evidence of aghast incomprehension of male privilege with respect to Australia's governance here.<<

This was in response to a simple, straightforward request.

>>I wonder if you would be so kind as to point to the relevant clauses [that provide explicitly for the removal of all women members]? Because in my copy of the Commonwealth Constitution, there is absolutely no mention of "women", at all.<<

It has nothing to do with "aghast incomprehension of male privilege" at all.

Do these clauses exist?

Yes, or no?
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 13 December 2010 7:54:58 AM
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Hi Whistler,

Please help me if you can: I am still aghast at my incomprehension to understand your gibberish, but I'm willing to wait until you can explain what you are on about :)

Joe Lane
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 11:29:28 AM
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hi Proxy, excellent idea for a new thread. Should I be sufficiently moved to contribute I would most probably suggest men enslaved women in the first place so there's no kudos in men freeing women from anything. In Rome, "[b]y the end of the First Century women had achieved a level of freedom they would not see again in Western Society until the last half of the Twentieth Century" http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/women_in_ancient_rome.htm, not to mention the "theory of worship of goddesses in prehistoric culture of Old Europe, before the invasion of warlike Indo Europeans" http://womenshistory.about.com/od/ancient/tp/aatpprehistory.htm, and that's just Europe. What men have done, with the support of women, is exercise their genius to transform the governance of extended families to that of the entire world, an extraordinary achievement. But the task is clearly not complete since modern legislatures can simply suspend or rescind legislation which granted women franchise in the first place. I've already indicated on this thread that "Men deserve a medal and everlasting world peace and sustainable prosperity for the skills women have achieved. It's not rocket science we can't do it alone" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116&page=0#103449. Alas, gratitude is the business of another thread.

Do you agree with Pericles equal rights between women and men means only men have a natural right to vote and to stand for parliament since majorities of Australia's legislatures can remove all women members, including the Prime Minister and two state Premiers, and prohibit all women the vote in accordance with the rule of law?
Posted by whistler, Sunday, 19 December 2010 12:57:02 PM
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Hi Loudmouth, excellent use of "gibberish" in support of aghast incomprehension of male privilege. Pericles used, "And you clearly believe that your pared-down aperçus should be sufficiently self-explanatory for us peasants to grasp your meaning." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102406, "could you please humour my ignorance for a moment" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102406, "you make the sweeping assumption" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102406, "So, can you tell us what you mean", http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102406, "And forgive me for stating the obvious, but without a proper explanation of the basic need that is being fulfilled, your argument is entirely circular..." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102536, "And again, it is necessary to state the bleedin' obvious:", http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102536, "And this is a blatant self-contradiction:", http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102536, "Given that, back then, you were reluctant to provide even the most rudimentary support to any of your assertions, I think everyone has been remarkably patient, myself included." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102553, "So for you to suddenly take exception to my patient and polite - if a touch searching - questioning technique, is exceptionally precious." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102553, "I still believe that the issue that you have raised is an entirely manufactured one. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102777, "That's a very odd argument, whistler. In fact, it is a non-argument." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102792, "Let's be realistic for a moment." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102792, "As a result, the entire foundation upon which you build this 'men govern by public consent and women are second-class citizens' is purely theoretical, and therefore a thoroughly unsound base upon which to create the notion that 'separate legislatures'" are somehow a requirement." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102792, "It still doesn't hang together as an argument, whistler." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102880, "The only position that you can realistically hold in the face of this evidence is that democracy itself does not work." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102880, "And frankly, this following sentence of yours is completely obscure." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102880, "We've been through this." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102881, "I've asked a couple of times, whistler, but have yet to receive a response." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102937, "Just one 'for-instance' would do, whistler. Only so that you can illustrate your fanciful suggestion that 'an imbalance of male power has caused irreparable harm to the environment, collapsed the global economy and prosecutes warfare incessantly'", http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102937,

[cont.]
Posted by whistler, Sunday, 19 December 2010 1:03:29 PM
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... "You must surely have some foundation for this bizarre claim?" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102937, "Repetition does not make this any more true, whistler. In fact, it simply underlines the massive lack of anything that even hints at evidence." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#102967, "Such pointless shenanigans would be beyond the scope of what one might consider even the remotest possibility, surely?" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103106, "I am in the corner fighting for equal rights.You are in the corner fighting for gender apartheid." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103148, "Brevity is all very well, whistler. But this is getting beyond brief, and well into cryptic." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103275, "That's all somewhat insubstantial" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103306, "You might like to re-read your own reference material, whistler." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103344, "That quite plainly is not the case" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103344, "I suggest that you find a more compelling rationale for your campaign, since this one has far too many holes." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103344, "Look, I know this is your hobby-horse, whistler. But you really shouldn't let yourself be defined by such a threadbare argument." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103435, "But you still miss the key issue." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103435, "We are fated to continue to disagree, whistler." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103473, "That's a pretty major shift in your logic, whistler." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103602, "This is simply repetition of your previous position." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103602, "I doubt that you could support that statement with any evidence. The entire legal edifice is built upon gender equality, not gender difference." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103602 ,"I suggest that this 'discussion' may have run its course, Philip." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#103715 and more recently, "Do you genuinely not see the problem with a reply such as this, whistler? It damages your credibility at so many levels" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#104404 and "This was in response to a simple, straightforward request" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4116#104404.

Do you agree with Pericles equal rights between women and men means only men have a natural right to vote and to stand for parliament since majorities of Australia's legislatures can remove all women members, including the Prime Minister and two state Premiers, and prohibit all women the vote in accordance with the rule of law?
Posted by whistler, Sunday, 19 December 2010 1:04:15 PM
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hi Antiseptic, do you agree with Pericles equal rights between women and men means only men have a natural right to vote and to stand for parliament since majorities of Australia's legislatures can remove all women members, including the Prime Minister and two state Premiers, and prohibit all women the vote in accordance with the rule of law?

hi Pericles, clauses, excellent idea for a new thread, most seasonal.
Posted by whistler, Sunday, 19 December 2010 1:06:03 PM
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