Your facts SM are not mine,your biases are no help in your refusal to see why we are getting an NBN.
Better communications, not just for the city's but whole country are needed.
The very nature of this country, at present stops radio being every one or even mosts answer.
As much backing comes for the NBN as opposition.
It is not just an ALP populist idea.
However we will not agree here.
I am not unaware of tec matters radio and its ability's are my hobby.

'(a) make business trips redundant

(b) holograms

(c) virtual meeting rooms'

Hahahahaha!

Like the paperless office, this will never happen.

a) Bosses like to go on expensive munch-a-thons.
b) Bosses don't trust workers to work from home.

'have a guess what oil is mainly used for

good, thats right transport

and what will high speed internet do?'

It will expand new transport markets via trading goods on ebay and Amazon. Go DHL you good thing. Go Aussie post!

nairbe,

I think the difference is the internet is for entertainment. The vast majority of bandwidth on the internet is porn. Followed by Hollywood movies. Hardly a 'service' the government should provide in preference to roads, railways, schools, electricity (heat / cooling).

Sure, to sell the NBN, there is all this paperless office type talk about tele-conferencing and virtual doctors, but that's just an after the fact justification. The core business of the internet is porn, entertainment and online shopping and banking. Porn and movies taking up the vast majority of bandwidth.

When you think of your average older Australian who barely has the ability to send an email, giving all these people a fibre connection is very wasteful. Put the backbone in place, and those who want to pirate movies and look at porn can pay for the connection to the home. And leave the copper in there for redundancy and to cater to those who are only using dial-up currently (655000 households) who don't even have the need for ADSL let alone ADSL2 let alone fibre.

As the need arises, and if they are willing to pay for the extra bandwidth (which can be a standard price regardless of location, where the city subsidises the bush), they can connect their homes to the backbone.

But no, the NBN wants to do the equivalent of closing surface roads to make people use the toll road tunnels. They want to get rid of the copper wire because they are frightened of competition.

Shadow Minister,

In respect to the fact to the reference of business plans being 20 years would not be a wise not appropriate measure for any business.

10 years is optimal for reasons taken in to account of new technology, direction including the bases of the fact that companies should not be purchasing equipment that’s not only going to become redundant but irrelevant past 10 years.

Technology being an ex IT consultant is updated on a 30 days bases worldwide meaning products that are the oldest are no longer supported due to refitting for newer tech as common process for manufactures for cost saving.

The reason I outline 43B is not being a optimist, but because this government would be failures in budgeting not taking into account delayed integration because of technical problems.

This of cause to sew up their demise of financial lost implementing infrastructures.

Houellebecq,

Time is money there is no reason why businesses meetings need to be within a boardrooms physically but rather virtually, holograms are a fact and 360 degrees is already here currently being finetuned.

There is no reason why companies these days don’t operate with a paperless environment, Telstra is one of the leaders using paperless environments opting for Intranet instead that’s plausible for even multi locations. The only paper ever needed is training manuals and brochures really.

Someone made reference to adaption for cost savings, this made be a suggestive idea but not a plausible one as this just means delayed installation not a long term resolution.

In the broader sense the aim is to complete fibre optics worldwide, through each country contributing to such installations within and outside their own mainlands.

I think the thing will be nothing but a disaster. With more investment in the net, firms are going to try to avoid any real customer service, even more than today.

When an almost new computer of mine went bang, [yes it actually went bang], the makers insisted in wasting 2 days trying to fix a physical problem with talk. What was needed was parts & solder, but they can’t do that over the net, or the phone.

That’s another one. When the phone stuffed up I found myself talking not to a technician at my home, but foreigners, a number of times, with moderately heavy accents that I found very hard to understand, in some call centre in the Philippines. Just how these people were supposed to handle equipment failures in Oz I really can’t imagine.

I have sworn a solum oath never to do business again with any company who connects me to a call centre staffed by people with accents. Cheep, fast communications is only going to increase this stupidity.

I was a member of an oil company motor racing team for a number of years, & a loyal customer ever since. A while back I rang them with a technical lubrication problem having failed to find an answer on their web site. Again I found myself talking to a little lady in India, who had no idea which way was up, & was unable to connect me to anyone who did know. I now do business with an oil company with a local call centre, connected to technical advice.

I have yet to find any advantage to me conferred by the communications revolution, in fact I find only disadvantages. The next time I call 000 I really would like to be connected to someone in south east Queensland, rather than Perth. I still wonder if her distance was the reason the ambulance took so long.

I may have got a new thread up after reading this mornings effort.
Hasbeen I see a link, faint as it is to the NBN and your post.
Not something new being linked to another country and unlikely to change.
No idea how we change that, or even know before we pick up the phone.
Yesterday ABC Radio national interview spoke about some country's even watching TV via the nett with speeds 100 times more than mine.
I am hoping to be around for some of that.
Hasbeen as you like to be informative about your life of luxury thought I could share mine.
Bought a second hand 4x4 12 years old but rust free as new.
never been on beach, about to change.
2 great weeks at 10 this morning from my departure I still miss ex workmates [not boss] and mates/members
And hasbeen still, every day I learn some thing new