Last Post is so far from our subject I have to ask.
Are you seeking posters for your forum or commenting on a thread unaware of its subject?
I thought about other forums, may join one as well but leaving such as Shallow Minister to ramble on is unpatriotic.
After all this despite his best efforts is not the comedy channel.

Belly,

Sticks and stones.

I have provided costings and links to informative posts. Your posts are statements of opinion that you expect to be taken as fact. Where is the truth in that?

The wave sweeping again Labor is not one of the neo cons, just a back lash against incompetence and corruption.

Shallow Minister,
You have been slammed so many times on this subject because your position is one of prejudice not objectivity. Your references don't carry any technical information of any value on this subject and on the whole are the manipulative ramblings of the conservative press. We need more visionary infrastructure programs but unfortunately we can only afford one at a time. You seem to forget that government is not a business and the whole swing in that direction over the past 25 years has been sad. Government must supply the services required by the people, all the people despite the cost. We are all meant to be equal and of value to this country and considering the real wealth of this country comes from the remote places, then why shouldn't we receive the services we deserve. Let's face it you wouldn't complain if the NBN was only being built in the 7 largest cities, actually you would applaud it

BrettH,
Yep i get it, we are going to be double billed. How unusual. I think at this stage i will await for the full release of the business plan. Let's hope that it is together and not a slap up job with more holes than swiss cheese put together to cover the lack of a cost benefit analysis. Not that i see a CBA is required as we know the the cost far out strips initial return, the NBN is an investment in future planning and direction. If we were to depend on cost benefit analysis's for infrastructure planning in this country we would not have built half the things we have.

Belly,
Is there an election on somewhere? your posts have the sound of panic. Labor will suffer at election after election until they find some renewal in their ranks and fresh policy ideas. The thing that is most illuminating is that the electorate has made it petty clear that they don't trust the coalition. Look at all the recent elections.

WA, liberal just but they have had to make hugh allowances for the Nationals and rural WA much weakening their position.

Tas, what a slap in the face for the liberals, they couldn't even defeat the most unpopular government around.

SA, Another election that the liberals should have one but just couldn't.

Federal, considering the problems that labor had in the run up, you would have to see the result as a massive vote of no confidence in the liberal party.

With the vic election going the same way my question is when will the coalition get it that no one trusts them to take government, even from the incompetence that labor has shown in recent years. There must be much encouragement in this for Christina as labors worst defeat could easily turn into a very weak coalition victory if the trend continues and the greens pick up momentum as the election approches.

Nairbe your second post branded you with a bit of shadow minister taint.
Yes I know you are a green, no never will I be.
Know about the DLP?
Right wing catholic urchins who kept conservatives in power for 23 years.
Greens are often ex Labor, often do not understand they betray their roots.
No more than 15% vote green, do you think it is ok to rule this country on Labors back.
I THINK THE GREENS are my enemy, did not always think that, Brown convinced me.
He had Labor voters NOT PREFFERENCING Labor.
While we roost on the same side of the paddock you must let me believe in what I wish to.
I like it or not, come from middle Australia, my thoughts are shared.
Election? in March Labor falls in NSW I always intended to vote green, with preferences to the incoming government.
As a thinking Labor voter that still seems the only way.

Nairbe,

The only people to slam me on this subject have no technical knowledge whatsoever, and are ardent Labor supporters.

If my posts and links don't hold value for you, it is probably because you have no clue as to the subject. Nairbe, if you wish to criticize perhaps you could attempt to offer even one rebuttal or even one fragment of information that might indicate you are more than hot air.

I seriously doubt you have the know how.

I am busy installing a network system in a large industrial plant, this includes single mode fiber, multi mode fiber, CAT 5, CAT6e (power over ethernet) and wireless. The reason that the vast majority of the network is not fiber is not because the cost of installation is much different, it is simply that other media are better in different situations. The attempt to supply fiber to everyone is technically ridiculous.