That yabby was a good post it was not biased not one sided had I posted it I would be called to task for blind bias.
Yet every word could have been mine.
Poor Kim could have won,my constant references my total distaste of Latham and a star of today, but forever a self serving idiot Crean.
That fool who holds a hunter seat and had to go to the bad boys bench after his free China trips, bit more actually,came to notice.
But equally bad, un trust worthy is Gillard.
We thought Rudd meant it, we never knew he like Simon Crean would betray even him self, I remember it forever.
Gillard in my first post after the down fall, and most from that date,has my whip marks on her back.
In the union movement and my party, my views will be unwelcome to many.
But if we cling to her like survivors at sea fighting over a coconut we all drown.
WITH ALL THIS we are most likely to win yet another term, with the greens infesting us like intestinal trouble.
yet We hardly can get beat.

This thread highlights both party's have such problems.
Driven by self interest blindness to any thing but power Howard stayed,it was him who drove his defeat, his personal hatred of unions bought about workchoices.
Goggle his interference in postal workers union long before he lead this country [I do not like communist unions but Howard acted awfully]
My party has the added weight of the greens, conservatives have the nice compliant do as we are told national party to lean on.
Yet we have the best Friend you could have, no need to get our house in order while Abbott's confrontation, do not worry about truth plan is in place.
Let us note, those independents left the national party looking for a better deal for? the bush.

Yabby, replaced by who mate?

Back in the Howard’s early days as PM, there were a few good prospects, who would have made good leaders. Seeing a long road ahead, with no change likely, they took their bats & balls, & headed for careers where they could make decent money now, rather than wait for retirement, & the pension.

I suppose there may be some great prospective leaders in the Liberal ranks, but if so, they are keeping their heads way down, & are certainly not visible to me.

Unfortunately I don’t see any in the Labor ranks that would have me looking forward to voting for them, either.

Can you imagine the dilemma if Turnbull became leader Lib again, by default. With him Gillard & Brown you would have to vote informal. Even if there was a good independent available, you could not vote for them, unless we went back to first past the post. There is no way I could give a preference to any candidate of a party, led by any of that three.

Sorry folks, Abbott is really the best of a rather poor bunch.

Hasbeen, they will just have to trawl through the backbenchers
and check for talent.

As it is, those long time politicians like Abbott and Pyne try
to hog the limelight and their spot in the chook pecking order.

I'm sure that Hockey is a nice bloke, but nice bloke is not enough
to have the smarts to be federal treasurer, as his little joke
of a display over this last week showed.

Abbott is a shin kicker, hardly showing good judgement.

As Pericles pointed out, we need a statesman and the present
mob of clowns are certainly not that. Better to trawl the backbenches
now, then further down the track, before these two make more of a
mess of things.

Sorry no baiting involved Turnbull is the one.
He has learned a lot and has the smarts watch this space.
Labor, biased but always will be to real talent, Bill Shorten sooner the better.
The impending earth quake in NSW can only be a tonic, a wake up call for Labor.

I lay the blame at Howards feet for the STUPID continuation of tenure afer 2006 and the STUPID work choices legislation.

Belly, Bill Shorton has more credibility than Julia for my money, I admired Julia, but the bald faced lying turned me off.