<<There's just as much a clash of civilizations in America between the secular portions of the population and the teabaggers as there is between the secularists and religionists in Turkey, as there are between fundamentalist Muslims and the West.>>

Very astute analysis and accurate analogy.

This must explain why Tea Partiers are strapping on suicide vests and flying passenger airliners into skyscrapers while fundamentalist Muslims are peacefully demonstrating in front of their halls of democracy.

Oh you got me Proxy- I'm really one of those Shariah apologists, as you can clearly tell by my tone in every other post I made where I clearly state my hostility towards such people.

Because a person who doesn't like fundamentalist muslims cannot possibly be a secularist who also dislike fundamentalist Christians either, and like both to be held at arms length and have no say in my life, right?

And of course, we can ONLY worry about Fundamentalist Muslims in our society proposing a Shariah state, if they blow things up, and for nothing else, right?

KH watch it! you and I are bound for the red necks box in the corner.
I can not back away from my truly held belief, in this case those who say we are being racist are blind.
My concern is the way some act because of a religion not race.
Culture based on a belief not race.
I think however multi culturism works, for most of us.
Honesty demands I say openly those I served, [I am no longer a union official] think as I do fear as I do and that is not racism, why give up our culture?

Actually Belly we would sit outside convenient stereotypes that people could normally apply someone, whether for Mikk, who assumes that people that have a problem with fundamentalist Islam or demand strict entry requirements are redneck bible-thumping Christian neocons, and on the other side, Proxy who assumes that anyone who has a problem with fundamentalist Christians is some soft-left liberal who loves Islam.

In short, people who buy into the whole notion that there are two political ideology groups and people must ally-up into one or the other (based entirely, of course, on the Liberal and Conservative stereotypes held in America and who THEY would likely support or oppose are sorted to either side accordingly), and can't make sense of someone who is capable of independent thought.

Hi Hazza

err you don't need to "only" worry about Muslims if they blow stuff up...but I suggest you might worry 'more' about them than Christians or tea partiers who don't.

To see the stark difference between say Beck's audience and the secular, socialist,union types.. just look at the MESS the filthy disgusting, disgraceful MESS left by the highly politicized socialist rally after Becks. I mean... rubbish EVery where..

Contrast that with Becks restoring Honour rally... not even a minti wrapper left...and NO SIGNS... You have black and white and hispanic... united in one cause RESTORING HONOUR to America.

An historic moment for sure.

Perfect Pitch :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9_bP219ehQ&feature=related

Tea Party response to multiculturalism