Good morning King Hazza, please understand our differences here are not personal.
You and I may get on very well in real life.
But the written words relies on what we say and is less descriptive than face to face.
For me,and apparently just over 85% of Australian voters, Labor and the Liberals, fit just fine.
We are less than impressed with the fact greens have too much say, did not vote for them, do not want them, and your terminology is not excepted by us.
why 579? infer comment is winging? and that things may change by March, yep may get worse for Labor.
If you 579 want us to read your thoughts and ideas why do you constantly question our right to think differently than you.
One term Nairbe is a chance while Labor has been so very awful, conservatives do not need to win, we did that for them.
On entering office for a 4 year term with a massive lead they will not be able to handle it.
Labor by suffering will bring new talent in at every by election find a leader without strings held by those who are the trouble not the answer, we shall return.

King Hazza,
Yes once the labor party were left and the liberals were liberal. Now labour is right and the liberals are conservative. We just refer to them as left and right of what is the centre of current political thinking. But if you want to be exacting then labour are now liberal privatisation driven panicers and the liberals are ultra conservative nanny state moralists.

579,
What are you on about, business is as capable of making a total disaster zone of things as government. Let's just say GFC. Corruption is held in place only by constant vigilance, and the older a government the harder it is for them to see it creeping in. It is always the rational decision or the way forward and sometimes it is, but it is still corruption.

I said something like private enterprise runs a more efficent business...
I am in the habbit of saying things directly without compromise, in my business i am the only one to blame so i make sure what i say is law, sorry if i offend some.
So your reference to corruption is sort of corruption, there should be an other name for it.
I have seen PM Gillard referred to as dangerous, she aparantly has had a left wing upbringing. I don't see anything dangerous about left wing. A mix of socialist and private makes for a good enviornment.
AU has had a long run on changing from one extreme to the other.

Corruption, can we look at it? and my thread.
I surely am not defending NSW ALP in fact charge some with? corruption.
It is not however an ALP owned product.
Mr Bob [run over the B,s] Askin remember him?
He it is said bought Nifty Nev new ideas.
In every road construction contract in NSW, every new contractor to maintain those roads, true horrible cost over runs, corrupt over pricing, takes place.
Generated in private enterprise by public servants.
Both incoming government and out going farce of a party can not change that.
I want better, from both sides this thrashing will be a start.
Do not kid your selves however no party has clean hands.

Can we look at the fact both party's have indeed moved to the right.
They have, strangely in NSW it is the Liberals who suffer for moving too far not Labor.
Labor rules this state far more than conservatives.
And it seems clear Liberalism is moving out of ground Labor is happy to move in to.
Is it not true while many who vote for them are unaware the Greens are the true left of Australian politics?
14% vote for them, who are these [I am not referring to Greens]refugees from Labor unhappy with our living in todays world not yesterdays?
They do not exist,our refugees are in the Green vote, no one surely thinks unhappiness with our run to the right made some vote conservative.
And conservative voters,do they vote green because they are unhappy with the Republican style infection in their party?
85% that is how many voted for the two party's that rule,few want a Labor party anchored in the 1950,s
While each of us want different things a balance is needed to win office in this country.
Foxy is every thing ok

From the Cambridge Catalogue website:
"Power Crisis, by former minister and Labor historian Rodney Cavalier, is the latest volume in the Australian Encounters series (jointly published by Cambridge University Press and the National Centre for Australian Studies (NCAS), Monash University). It will be launched in Sydney by Senator John Faulkner, who may well have some words about the current plight of Australian Labor, and MCed by Dr Tony Moore, commissioning editor of Australian Encounters and Director of NCAS.“This is a forensic and penetrating analysis of the crisis facing modern Labor. Cavalier is unrivalled in his ability to identify the dilemmas of the present but locate them in historical context.”
– Paul Kelly, The Australian“Rodney Cavalier analyses the root causes of the crisis to explain why government in NSW has become a grim game of musical chairs. He reveals a bitter conflict between an elected Labor government and the party that created it. The problem for modern Labor is the hijacking of party and government by a professional political class — operatives on big salaries with minimal life experience or connection to the broader community”
– Dr. Tony Moore, Director of NCAS