King Hazza.I don't think that the NSW Libs will be much better.Perhaps a little less corrupt.The silience is deafening from Barry O'Farrel.I suspect they will get into power and screw us even more.

Belly,
Comments from hazza and al are ignorable for the ignorance they are. The primary issue for NSW labor is the same that faces every long term government. The old members need to know when to move on to give new blood and fresh ideas a chance for the electorate. The NSW government have to many tired members that don't perform because they are holding on to what they know rather than doing the job. Change is as important to a government as it is to us all in our lives. It gives us fresh ideas and new drive to achieve things. I would suport a two term restriction for members in NSW or three terms in the three year term governments. This may have it's own problems but they can always stand again after a break.

Nairbe spot on, sorry but an understanding of the subject seems to be missing from KH posts.
I get a grin however from Labor being described as right wing.
We are in a hole,the wrong people are getting a seat in the house and in reality some should only get in the door with mop and bucket in hand.
It revolves around branches, being popular within a branch is not prof of talent.
Being a lawyer or dealer in real estate is not a recommendation.
And, get a kicking for this, spent or never was, union heads mostly fail.
We have real stars and in fact the party's future is in unions best but our failures are to be seen too.
Fund raising disturbs me, we some times look very near third world bribe demanding in this area.
How many of us do not see Labors failures increasing the green vote?
Even now, this late and with an election victory in the bag, I am waiting to see if a last minute replacement for Liberals leader takes place.
Knowing, understanding the incoming government will be bad, has no affect, Labor has conceded defeat now.

Belly, i too am waiting to see if NSW coalition can make a mess of it as they have the last two elections. For NSW i hope not. It is difficult to judge how the coalition will go in NSW as they have more infighting issues than labor, actually the residence of NSW should be concerned that neither party appears to be competent and has not for quite a while. This i believe has much to do with the increase in the green vote. I don't have a problem with that as many do. It is simple for the greens now, they have an opportunity to prove they can throw off the radical appearance and be progressive and co operative. If they cannot do this they will be dead within 6 years as a political force.
I don't understand the workings of the branch system of either party as i don't belong to one, but as an outsider the whole political machine smells putrid. Branch stacking, political donations and jobs for retiring MP's all looks, smells and feels like corruption and as they say where there's smoke.

I'm sorry Belly and Niarbe, could you explain to me, in practice, how a party that is active in selling off public assets is, in no way, "right wing" but "left wing"?*

Or for that matter, try to explain why the things I listed above cannot possibly be about corruption, but instead 'older members'?
But sure- if newer members have a different attitude to politics (ie actually care about the job at all) then I'd be happy to see it.

As it stands we have cycled through 3 dishonest mobs in that party though- so I'd have to actually see a radical announcement of policy change by these new members also.

King Hazza has got it in a nutshell.

It is alarming that the NSW ALP continues to be the best of a bad bunch in the mind of the NSW voter. The NSW ALP is has shifted way too far to the Right.

No longer does the NSW ALP give a toss about the ordinary citizen having sold off the citizen's assets without permission.

It is not that the alternative might be better (they could not be worse) but there is a point where a government needs to be give a strong reminder of who they are representing. In our two-party focussed system being voted out is the only tool the voter has at their disposal.