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Sexual Harassment in the workforce.

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Transki, it will be a very long day before that little lady is a victim. I have no opinion of the gentleman, but on the surface it does appear as if he is a through slob.

Foxy I have not seen any of the harassment you talk of. Perhaps this is because I only ran smaller, [30/40 staff] companies in the last 30 years. Perhaps it was my brilliant management, or perhaps size does matter when it comes to these things. When I was younger, in large industries, I probably wouldn't have seen anything, if it hit me over the head.

I was involved with a number of resorts, with staff into the hundreds, & there you saw a great deal of sexual activity, among equals, & up & down the hierarchical scale, but there it was as much the management lady & the hansom young bloke as anything else. In fact, most of the male managers had wives on sight, which probably cramped their style, if harassment was on their minds.

There was also a great deal of activity between the staff & the guests, but I don't suppose that ranks as harassment. One Island manager was a regular lover boy, but only with guests from what I saw. I had to admire his stamina.

It would also be naive to forget that the story of the lady working her way to the top, by lying on her back, be that on the casting couch, or in the office. I am sure that some, who have chosen this path, have been inclined to cry foul, if the results were not as expected. Would this situation be considered harassment?
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 19 September 2010 5:12:43 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Let's get things clear - what we're talking
about is sexual harassment in the workplace.
That is any form of unwelcome sexual attention
that is found to be offensive, humiliating,
or intimidating that occurs anywhere you carry
out any task for your employment. We're not
talking about consensual sex between adults
here.

If you've not seen any of it in your places of
work, than consider yourself fortunate. Because
this sort of harassment can be devastating for
the victim, involving both physical and emotional
damage and the disruption of personal, social,
familial and sexual life. If the victim reports
the harassment, it often is not taken seriously
or worse, many lawyers try to shift the burden
of guilt from the accused to the victim. They may
try to show that the woman is "loose," implying
that if she has consented to any man before, she
must have been willing on this occasion also.
Or, utilizing the myth that women somehow enjoy
being sexually harassed, they may claim that the
victim consciously or subconsciously encouraged
the sexual harassment. They may even argue that
she was provocatively dressed and was therefore
at fault - another prime example of the way in which
responsibility for the control of male advances is
shifted to the female.

Such a line of defence is unique to sexual harassment
a well-dressed man stepping from an expensive limo
would never be accused of thereby tempting someone
to mug him.

Even this aspect of the act and its aftermath can be fully
understood only in terms of overall patterns of sexual
interaction in the society.

Anyway, do a bit of research, google, "Sexual harassment
in the workplace," and see what websites come up.
It may just be an eye-opener.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 September 2010 6:03:44 PM
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FOXY good post thank you, i agree.

Hasbeen, With the attitude you display i am not surprised you have never seen sexual harassment, you would have been the manager at the bar betting $20 that he won't get the girl. Your position is so typical of men from past generations who seem to think women are a play toy and they just love your attention.
It might be a surprise to you but sexual harassment is often unnoticed and mostly unreported for the same reasons many people don't proceed with child sexual assault cases. The trauma is enormous and the system will try anything to discredit the victim. It is a weak system with weak people running it.
Good luck to this girl. If the evidence is there, she wins not just for herself but for what is looking more and more like a trail of destruction left by this man. Funny that no one else saw what was happening, must have all been alright hey hasbeen, just like old times.
Posted by nairbe, Sunday, 19 September 2010 8:55:11 PM
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I would have to stick with the boys here and you know dam well, a female will use their rack to claim what ever their hearts willing and their attractiveness as human nature will give, and both sides know what and how, their doings for what ever reasons.

A male, as the female knows, will pay, not only for employment and fun, but the natural step for that run on the ladder, so foxy! stop bullsh@ting all that you think is true, in the world of the human-beings.

Males will be males, and you know it.

Its know wonder why some men cover their females.

TT
Posted by think than move, Sunday, 19 September 2010 9:04:09 PM
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The reason women don't come forward when experiencing SH is fear and most importantly fear of not being believed as the comments on this thread so far would seem to substantiate.

Sure there is a big grey area on what constitutes SH but where does the onus lie? Should those who sexually harrass others not be responsible for their own behaviour and read the very obvious cues at times that clearly demonstrate their behaviour is not wanted nor is it appropriate in the workplace.

Most women I know have been SH at some time at work (to varying degrees) and usually choose to ignore it or they leave without making a complaint. It is very brave for a woman to come forward and face the doubting public who seem more predisposed to disbelieve. The same applies to whistleblowers and those who make IR complaints via a union or other government body.

Complainants are often made to feel like they are the one at fault and face the bully crowd mentality. 'Pelican'

Spot on Pelican.

Kindest wishes.
Posted by we are unique, Sunday, 19 September 2010 11:00:22 PM
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My post earlier was not considered by some as sexual harassment.
It very much was and is.
The young lady,her male work mates, patrol a park, property of the people of this state.
It is an every day event to find sexual activity's taking place in daylight and in public.
She is a wreck, years of reporting only to be warned she is homophobic and threated with transfer has her in real trouble.
In fact she is much more a victim than some one who has had a hand placed on their knee.
My view is those in charge, those taking the reports and not acting, are as guilty as the offender, in fact more so.
We have a culture of saying get over it, that must change but those who wrongly charge others must be dealt with too.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 20 September 2010 6:44:03 AM
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