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There's plenty of vitamins in nuts!
Posted by Bugsy, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 3:15:20 PM
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Garth, you're right in a way...the truth is that we the taxpayers save it first! You know how that works don't you? Big Pharm tells governments this is how much you can get our drugs for. (400 to 1000plus % markup)Governments say yes we'll have it, tells the public we scored a deal for this and that medicine so we can give it to you for a reduced price via health benefits etc.Great deal you might say, we the tax payers paid for them in the firstplace! What a rip-off! That's what the big pharm has been doing for the last umpteen years.Good value? I don't think so...If one just would do the research and find out the actual cost of producing? We are talking about cents not $$$$ Even the research is paid by us. Follow the money.
Posted by eftfnc, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 3:50:31 PM
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Bugsy, there are indeed vitamins in nuts as the following shows you:
http://www.newstarget.com/cartoons/Expensive_Urine_600.jpg Posted by eftfnc, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 5:12:21 PM
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eftfnc “the drug industry delivers ever more diseases, because diseases are the economic basis for the existence of this investment business”
I assume, to support this “claim” you are able to evidence some diseases which the pharmaceutical industry has created so they can offer medicines to counter the malady. I would suggest you present such evidence here and now. I have a particular interest in “cardiovascular disease” because my father died of it. What have pharmaceutical companies done to ensure this “disease” group has grown? “synthetic drugs that are patented” but do they work of do they fail. I thought we had the PBS And other institutions available to independently test new drugs. “Building this ‘business with disease’ over the past century,” Do you have estimates of average life expectancy had this industry not existed? “(400 to 1000plus % markup)” is a matter of how they cost and how R&D Expenses are recovered. High gross margins are usually attributable to particular cost structures. The R&D cost would conventionally be a non-direct cost and thus be funded from the margin generated by direct revenue less direct costs. I would further note, 1000% markup is the same as 91% margin and 400% markup assumes a 80% margin, except it sounds more dramatic. Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 9:35:24 PM
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“the drug industry delivers ever more diseases,”
I assume, to support this “claim” you are able to evidence some diseases which the pharmaceutical industry has created so they can offer medicines to counter the malady. "delivers ever more diseases" Take anti-biotics for example,it is not curing a person,if it is not killing the organisms, the organism will defend itself by reinventing it's form. Can you recall one medicine ever created which CURED someone? "I have a particular interest in “cardiovascular disease” because my father died of it. What have pharmaceutical companies done to ensure this “disease” group has grown?" The question here is:What did his doc prescribe for him,how much has his system before/after medication weakened and what was his dietary intake like during his life? “synthetic drugs" are synthetic ,meaning the body (most often)does not recoqnise it to be natural. "I thought we had the PBS And other institutions available to independently test new drugs." Have you ever seen the results? Ask the TGA about testing of Vaccinations and the Mercury contents they pump into chillers at a very young age,before their immune system has been fully developed. "Do you have estimates of average life expectancy had this industry not existed?" There are charts available explaining in detail disease drop "before vaccinations & after introduction" of same. Can't give you the details where the file is, however try to google "Vaccinations" “(400 to 1000plus % markup)” I should have said 400 to 1000+ times the actual cost. (which was in cents) I lost my dad to cancer in the seventies, I tried to get him on vit C injections,his doc refused to do the research I could not change his mind to contact two labs who could administer the Vitamin injections ,one in Mexico the other in Germany.(Dr.Rath as in my first article) Google:aspartame (e951)(e952),sodium nitrite,msg,fluorolisic acid,thimerosal, http://imva.info (imva archives) Try search for "cardiovascular disease" at http://mercola.com Posted by eftfnc, Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:20:31 AM
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I guess if there are vitamins in nuts, there are probably more in nutbags!
The whole VitC stuff had a fanatical following in the 70's and 80's, one of my old biochemistry professors had a great interest in megadoses and possible uses of vitamin treatment after he contracted cancer. He died too. He was considered an expert on vitamins and metabolism and lectured in it and found in the end that vitamins don't have any effect on diseases like cancer, but they do improve ones sense of wellbeing, if not ones actual condition. The whole big-pharma thing is just a beatup and the "history" is revisionist conspiracy theory claptrap. Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 1 February 2007 2:47:37 PM
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