i love/the way you force/me..to think..oliver

take/cockroaches...as an egsample../
more specificlly..the myth..that they will out survive..humanity....realise..thats a hypothesis..a theory...

[even if..you take/god out of the picture...human nature..has survival-instinct]...can live in the dark..eating cockroaches..

if need be...[we could even farm..them...or burn them for warmth]..

human ingenuety...can over-come most obsticals..dont sell your brr-others short..[we/are..at the same time..more smart...or dumb..than any could presume]

<<If a god stopped it,..It would breaking Its own rules>>says the flea to the elephant...[god does as good choses to do[if he can smite..he can stop/change..anything he pleases.

<<Said God/lets 10,000s/hundreds of thousands..of people die each year..in natural catastrophies>>>BECAUSE..he knows dead aint dead.

<<Besides,/my point was-that..other animals are better adapted than we are>>>how come they arnt...'at the top-of the food-chain..then'...dont dismiss your others so lightly

<<given the certain/various circumastance.>>>humans/seem to rise..to the challange

<<Religion/sees..humans have as being.."special">>>and science sees us as mutants/medicine ses us as lab-rats...govt ses us as tax-payers..big business sees us as a cash-cow.

<<And we are:..Yet/we are..only in specific contexts.>>yes as suits/their adjenda...or as they se ways to make us suit their vairios...unending..needs

<<There/is no guarantee..that the DNA/of some bioform..1,000 meters under a heat-vent/under an ocean..will be around..after our DNA's descendants/are long gone..>>of course not....

but it is likely..that he will/be...
and there is a certainty..he shall still be
a bio-form..with-in..his genus...just as god gave him to be.

'to whom much is given'
dosnt apply/to those to whom..was given so little
they have the nature/of the beast..till their spirit...seeks something different...

one day..it will feel/
see..the light/
decide it'is..good

...and evolve...SPIRITUALLY..into a higher incarnation..in the light

till we seek to do better...
god gives us glimses of better ways..that we chose to do better

this human/life..is the highest evolution...
[in the flesh]..which..our spirits can concieve

its all about knowing/our loves
then defining..it via our living..[the way]

Now, I don't mind blaming Howard for anything he was responsible for, but do lets dig deeper into the memory banks here.

It was Hawke-Keating who started selling off the Crown Jewels, not Howard.

And it has been state ALP governments that have continued it.

During the Goss years electricty was 'corporatised' in a prelude to selling it off, which Bligh is now doing, along with railways.

Bligh will be swept from government, if she survives this joke of an election now unfolding that is.

And, it was Rudd, Goss, and Coaldrake et al, who locked into the Hawke-Keating neo-liberalism of Thatcher/Reagan that brought us all of this 'brave new world' of 'globalisation'.

Which is why Rudd sounded so very empty, and a total liar, when he tried to pretend he was not a neo-lib.

As for the carbon tax, there is an element within it for redistribution, but the idea is to reduce consumption by making it cost more.

That is a different matter to the profit gouging referred to above though.... which is why monopolies in essential services should never be gifted to private enterprise.

The Blue Cross

You speak the truth and it has taken the Australian public only about 30 years to realise that neither the Libs or Labor are governing for the average schmo, they are governing for themselves and corporations.

My conscience is clear, voted Greens. Maybe we'll get a government that passes on the cost of pollution to the polluters, not gonna hold my breath.

CJ Morgan

Like you I try and conserve as much as I can. I live in a rural area and there is more than enough fuel on my property for my wood burning stove. I am constantly lopping trees to contain their growth and there is too much for me to consume so I think in that respect I am carbon neutral, because it is all stuff that I have planted originally.

With the help of the government I replaced my hot water system with a solar one and have never turned on the booster, so my hot water costs me nothing. With the help of the government again, I had a 1 Kw solar power system installed and my quarterly bill during the summer months was only eight dollars, excluding the off-peak pool pump (my one extravagance as I swim every day all the year round) This tariff 33 was about $100. The Winter bills have been a tad more.

I do cook on gas, I have no air con, I have no flat screen TV, no clothes drier, I have no dish washer and make sure that I run any extra electrical equipment such as a clothes washer (Front loader) after the sun goes down and I thus get the advantage of feeding back power to the grid, for which I get reimbursed at three times the rate at which I buy. I also have 35,000 litres of tank water.

I have the advantage that I am basically a single household although I do have a visitor three days & nights every weekend.

I have seen this coming for some years now (along with global warming) and have gradually been preparing for the eventuality of higher electricity costs among other things and am now reaping the benefit... It is going to get worse. My neighbour has just put 36 PV panels on his roof and the power company will be paying him !

* My neighbour has just put 36 PV panels on his roof and the power company will be paying him !*

Err not really snake. They will be charging other users more,
to subidise payments to him, by law. Good old election
pork barreling really, so that the Govt can increase its so
called "green" credentials.

As we've seen in Germany, if they make the payback tariff
high enough, enterprising individuals will use coal fired
electricty to feed back through their solar system and
make a healthy quid! Meantime Sonofgloin and others
will be complaining about their higher electricty charges.

Actually Yabby that is not entirely true.

The problem is peak demand. Anything to help reduce peak demand like encouraging people to feed back to the grid is encouraged.

We normally only use about 60% of the base load generating capacity. The rest is only used about 1% of the time at peak periods. This is caused more and more by life style changes when people turn on their A/C for instance and also caused by more, proportionately smaller households. It is a dilemma for the electricity authorities because it is not good use of captital. Peak demand is now growing at a 50% faster rate than base load. One and a half billion dollars alone is responsible for this peak load used for only 1% of the time. This peak demand is doubling every 20 years

Many electricity suppliers are running short of reserves and it is one reason why charges are going up so quickly. Change your life style and use less power. That's the answer.