Examinator,

Posting with no reference to the facts is probably the main reason for your wild and unsubstantiated claims.

The modem, and the internal networking in the house is not included.

The prices published for the NBN are higher than presently available. I am guessing that the take up in the cities will be much lower than predicted.

The coalition's plan of upgrading the back bone will enable the restrictions on bandwidth to be lifted, so that the average user will get about 10x the speed.

The NBN is entirely state funded and has never claimed otherwise.

All of these are published. If you disagree, I invite you to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary.

Not only will I be paying $5400 for something I don't need, but also lose my telephone line. If I then still want to be able to talk with my friends and family (other than in person, note that I conscientiously object to mobiles), I will have to subscribe to this NBN and pay premium charges as if I actually needed anything like that bandwidth.

I rather spend $5400 to retain my ordinary home telephone-line, if that was only possible.

Not even close to fact SM.
It cost me just a bit more than $400 to get land line to this home trench and all.
About that or less to get new NBN if it can Be done here.
I am on satellite, tax payers paid a lot for that.
WIRLESS will notwork here dead spot.
NBN is supported by most country people, no votes to be won in the bush by bending the truth on this SM.

It's the wholesale component of the NBN that is State funded.

It will be up to the retailers (such as Telstra) to provide any required consumer hardware, which they would do on a competitive basis.

The government at one time considered providing every household with a digital tuner when the analogue TV system was going to be retired and that was estimated to cost no more than $35 each, due to supply volume. This would be even cheaper now.

I can't see where there are plans to remove existing copper infrastructure just because a new fibre may run past your house, nor can I see where Telstra will no longer support the POTS system just because there is an alternative available.

I also can't see what those figures are based on. Maybe a 100% return in 12 months? Who knows. The Australian is pretty much a Liberal newsletter anyway.

Installation should be no more complex than for satellite TV and that also requires telephony accreditation.

There are a lot of roads and a hospital near my house that are yet to pay for themselves too but I guess that's what public infrastructure is. Costs are returned to the community indirectly through benefits.
At least this will generate revenue from the retailers.

NBN is supported by most country people, no votes to be won in the bush by bending the truth on this SM.

I here in lies the problem, the bush!

You see, people who chosse to live in the more 'remote' regions, usually do so for several reasons, one being that of affordabillity of land/house.

If one looks at a country area (mining towns excluded), you can expect to pay around 5 to 10% of city values for your land.

The restrictions as to what you can build are generally looser, so the available cost to build is usually much cheaper.

Now, one can not expect to 'go bush', saving a S-load, then complain because the internet services are poor, or, it takes to long to see a doctor, or for an ambulance to reach me.

You pay less for a reason and if you want all the 'mod cons' that a city provides, then simply move closer to where they are or be happy with what you have.

My opinion is that for those who want the speed, simply spend the money as I am sure there are expensive gadgets out there.

In any case, with labors track record, and let's not kid ourselves, it's not pretty, who can trust them to get it right.

SM,

Please don't try again your response is still spin spin and more spin.
oh yes, failing to acknowledge let alone address any of my points.

I won't respond to you any more on this thread unless you address all previous stated facts. My criticism have been said on other related posts. I have no interest in :
a. repeating them
b. breaking the rules about re posting.

Other than that Have an acceptable day. Party politics is so compromised a result either way is going to alienate a large minority of voters regardless