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The Forum > General Discussion > Ideology/theology and Government, god help us.

Ideology/theology and Government, god help us.

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Dear Hasbeen,

You sound like my husband.
He's been saying the same thing
all week.

Finally, it's beginning to make sense
to me as well.

He's opposed to the Greens because
according to him, they're inflexible.
It's either their way or nothing.
And he'd hate to see them have all
the power in the Senate. Then the
elected Government couldn't get
any of their programs through.

Food for thought.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 19 August 2010 7:17:56 PM
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Foxy... the Greens may get 'the balance of power', not 'the power'.

Given the similarity between Gillard's right wing fancies, and Abbott's equally terrible life perspective, the two major parties will sail all the bad policy they want, through the Senate.

It will only be when they disagree, that Brown's Greens will have a role to play.

Given the appalling campaigns, the lack of policy, and the similarity between the two parties, I suspect Rudd would have been no worse off now, than Gillard is.

Frankly, Gillard and her henchmen achieved nothing much at all, execpt to bring the ALP into disrepute.

Still, I loathed Rudd, and am happy to see him gone.... but really, given that Gillard was his deputy, who really failed... him, the blind man who had too much faith in himself, or her, as his deputy, who should have spoken up, along with all those other Cabinet drones, if she truly thought there was something amiss?

The two major parties deserve to be punished... vote Green 1, and then your preferred 'poor choice'.

Australian politics need a shake up.... let's do it on Saturday.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:38:38 PM
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ALGOREisRICH,

"A great wind of renewal and awakening in America?"

Rubbish!

They had their renewal a couple of years ago as we did.

What's happening there is just a reactionary nostalgic return to the Bush era of two years ago - a result of the relentless conservative media propaganda and self-interest from the likes of Murdoch, who failed to stop Obama being elected by mass support. They're shafting him too and setting up fundamentalist groups like the "Tea Party" to harness and channel all that manufactured unrest.

Likewise, the same forces are trying to push us back to the Howard years - only a more extreme right-wing version.

Back to balaclavas and dogs in the workplace, the slashing of public services, a regressive tax system, the plunder of public assets, middle-class welfare, 2 unwinnable wars, xenophobia, overt racism and massive social division.

It will be even uglier.

Enjoy.
Posted by rache, Friday, 20 August 2010 2:28:42 AM
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Dear Thinker2,
For God to help us a number of criteria must first be met.
1. Believe that He is.
2. Repentance or i80 degree about face.(turn from Our twisted ways)
3. Be baptized for forgiveness of sin.
4. Ask for and receive God the Holy Spirit.(He leads us into the truth not mans opinion)
As God is a gentleman and has given us free will it is still our choice. He does not impose his will on us as some I will not name.
The nature of God is good. The nature of man is twisted and that is why when we try to untwist our nature it always comes back. Without a heart transplant we still have the old wicked twisted heart of selfcentredness. God is no longer unknown for the name he has given us to call upon is Jesus. Just a few facts that you may be unaware of
Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 20 August 2010 6:48:38 AM
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Apologies to Ritchie 10 , I was being vernacular and somewhat flippant I guess
by using such terminology as "god help us".

And Foxy, I too live in a safe Liberal seat and therefore, I too am unable to make my viewpoint felt electorally.
It seems there must be a lot of us out here.

Hopefully that will transfer to wins in marginals and ultimately prevail tomorrow, in an otherwise grim situation.
Fingers, toes even eyes crossed over this election.

The question for me is can you re-elect a Gov't that has so badly misread the mood
of the electorate?.

The answer is "yes you can", because the alternative is a return to the Howard Era and some more progress in reverse ! ,
at a time when (on the street), your going to need more support from your Govt then you've ever needed before,
with more world financial difficulties looming on the horizon.

Truth is if you re-elect the Govt, they owe you big time, after stumbling first term and need to get it right this time.

Therefore re-electing the Govt empowers the voter more than hoping that introducing
a 5 year old to a stick of dynamite will fix everything.

Electing an unknown factor (such as Abbott) at this time is best is sheer folly.
Romantic nonsense. Even Abbott himself warns us "that we'll know what we'll
get with him". Ain't that the truth !.

As I said Foxy, fingers crossed because "this cant be happening".

I'm hoping on Sunday morning I will wake up and this will all
just have been a bad dream
Posted by thinker 2, Friday, 20 August 2010 5:47:12 PM
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Dear thinker 2,

A big hug from me to you.
You're not alone in your thinking.

Surely the voters can't be that gullible
or have such short memories that they'd
want a return to the Howard era.

Fingers-crossed from me as well, that
the voters will get it right this time.
Tony Abbott is a no-go zone.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 20 August 2010 8:22:48 PM
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