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Aboriginal Welfare - can it work?

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So many threads in so many forums about this problem, in one sadly gone Aussie forum so real hope as debate flowed freely.
Yes its only my view but far too many who have had next to no contact with Australias first people get involved in things they will never understand.
So my involvment? I have always been a country bloke and grew up alongside these people.
My nephew is married into the comunity and some of my lifetime mates are part of it.
I have helped in any way I could any one wanting help and that includes finding work and of course in lending money that is never returned.
Very few in this comunity are in any way interested in self help, some spend every minute of every day waiting for payment for the loss of a culture they abandoned generations ago.
Thats a start more follows.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 6:19:23 AM
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The streets are indeed full of teenage criminals and racists and many are Aboridginals.
And seperate education or education based on Aboridginal culture is not the answer, in fact it is racist in the exteme to educate at a lower level or to educate for a culture that is fractured and in truth rarly exists.
Education for two cultures but not one.
Some dress and dances at local events come from a culture that never was Australian as people struggle to fill in gaps of 200 years of neglect of their own culture.
We can not let people forget young Aboridginals mostly do not get and do not want education.
And we must if they get it help them use it jobs that mean something are a start.
Nore should we forget in some cases storeys of the miss handled but mostly well intentioned stolen generation keeps children in dreadfull danger in the very homes that see sexual assults inflicted on them.
Racist? we the white Australians may well be!,see its our duty no matter what it takes to see this is the last generation that is payed sit down money paid to fail.
If tought love is the answer so be it failure is not an option.
And the best leaders are already within the comunity why do we feed the problem with money and make it worse?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 6:34:54 AM
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I'm posting to simply point out that the author of this general discussion post is quite obviously not abreast of the history, policy or politics of the topic at hand. This general discussion post is simply to verify confirm and seek support for her own bigoted perspectives.

Any attempt to engage in discussion by those who are more informed, literate, and intellectually able is futile. You are therefore warned that engagement is at your own risk.
Posted by Rainier, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 10:08:02 AM
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Country Gal has posed a considered and non-confrontational question. Ranier, however, after declining to start a thread himself as I suggested, has jumped in with his usually warnings – “the author of this post is quite obviously not abreast of the history, politics of the topic at hand”.

And: “Any attempt to engage in discussion by those who are more informed, literate, and intellectually able is futile. You are therefore warned that engagement is at your own risk.”

In other words, Ranier has again attempted to stifle all discussion on the subject. No white person should have the gall to comment, he thinks. In this, he and other militants with a more public role than Ranier are their own worst enemies. They are right. Whitey is wrong, despite the fact that whitey has bent over backwards to be PC and provide the money.

Good luck to those of you who care to voice an opinion. I am done with the silliness of aborigines versus weak, indulgent governments.

The whole aboriginal question is just one of many examples of how Australia is going down the gurgler, thanks to moronic politicians and complacent citizens
Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 11:20:22 AM
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My warning also refers to Leigh, Lonely Man and Classical Mickey Mouse social and cultural theorist.
Posted by Rainier, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 11:56:06 AM
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Rainier, if I was only interested in seeking support for my own opinions, then I wouldnt bother engaging in debate with you, given that you seem not to agree with me. The idea behind this discussion was a) to give it its own topic area rather than to keep clogging the debate on other threads, and b) to try and generate both debate and some constructive ideas. To devolve into a slanging match, where you just say that I am bigoted achieves nothing, except to lend support to my arguements about victim mentality. In a debate on an emotionally charged topic such as this, there are always going to be strong opinions on either side, with plenty falling in between. Do try not to take these as a personal affront, unless they are expressly addressed as such, as we then just slog out the old "I'm right, you're wrong" and get no where.
Posted by Country Gal, Wednesday, 24 January 2007 12:29:07 PM
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