A few points runner belly never ever votes on party lines.
I understand no party can fill all my wants.
So I vote ALP as the best fit, helped by the great distance away from me of conservative party's.
Runner just maybe it was me among others, who GY said should not stoop to your level in debate.
It was Christians like you, a minority, that drove me forever from God land.
Jesus taught of far more forgiveness and love than you, your silly statement of violent leftist protests is surely untrue?
Jesus spoke of giving Cesar his dues , you judge only one side and think your God is behind you.
The Christ I once followed would not be pleased to be used by you this way.
Gillard is human, sex is much more popular than some wish to think, if DNA tests took place in every new birth we may see Divorce grow ten fold.
We live in the real world and it is shameful that we have turned so badly on our first female Prime Minister for such reasons.
Runner it is my view that the Christian right does not follow God ,they try to use and lead him in directions he was never known for.
I remain confident no hell waits me but you may just be living in your hell now.

Belly you may use me as an excuse however you make little sense. You write

'It was Christians like you, a minority, that drove me forever from God land.'

Surely if it is a minority like me that turned you away from Christ then you would have the tolerance to look past the majority. In fact their are many in churches that disagree with a literal interpretation of of Scripture. I am sure also there are some in the Labour party you can't stand. That does mot prevent you supporting them. You may wish hell upon me but I wish it upon no one.

>>> We live in the real world and it is shameful that we have turned so badly on our first female Prime Minister for such reasons. <<<

Well said, Belly.

This topic is a disgrace.

Dear Cornflower,

How do you know the precise details
of what sort of judgement the PM did or did
not show,
under what circumstances, in what context,
or what other considerations were involved?
Lust? - really ? That's simply viewing things
through your own lens and making possibly
totally skewed assumptions.

But if you want to attack the PM - do so on
policies that are relevant to
her job. As far as I'm aware, (at least
in this country) who you sleep with (or don't),
is not considered to be part and parcel of your
CV - and you don't have to explain your choices
at job interviews.

I suspect though that you're not serious here,
and are simply stirring.

Foxy

So it is not a betrayal of trust to have an affair with a married man or for a married man to have a lover? What is to say that the same people wouldn't display a similar disregard for the rights and welfare of people they don't even know? Would you do the same and if not why not, because therein lies your ethical standard and your own code of conduct.

Thinking about ethical conduct, in the recent case of Colin Buswell (WA) would you agree with this, "He told reporters in Perth that while the affair was a matter between two adults, using ministerial entitlements was not."?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/wa-treasurer-troy-buswell-admits-affair-with-adele-carles-but-wont-resign/story-e6frea6u-1225858394024

Foxy, you are so right!

How come that nobody has paid attention to what Foxy said earlier in the discussion after she read the article in the Weekly?
>>In the article to which you referred earlier, it quite clearly states, "The state of Craig Emerson's marriage at the time, specifically whether he WAS separated or otherwise estranged from his wife PRIOR to starting the relationship with Julia, is NOT KNOWN..."<<

I did some googling yesterday to see if there was more info on this relationship, and came across some articles of around 2002-2004 that clearly stated that Craig Emerson had already separated from his wife before he started having a (2 year long) relationship with Julia.
There are lots of little bits and pieces I sourced from several newspapers and interviews, so I won't provide all the links. Google and you will find!
One example though, is this article:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/05/1057179204775.html

"Dr Emerson is the separated, quietly-spoken economics PhD, former bureaucrat and political adviser drafted in to tackle Coalition hardman Tony Abbott on workplace issues."

and

"Their year-long relationship has been spoken about by Canberra insiders for months but, under the unwritten law of observers in the capital, it went unreported - until last week, when their elevation became the stuff of headlines.

It is the political reality that voters like to see government leaders married which has prompted a senior ALP figure, who was not a supporter of Crean during the leadership challenge, to express the view that Ms Gillard, 41, and Dr Emerson, 48, should get married."