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The Julia and Hilary show? Or is it President Palin?

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Obama is in deep trouble with the US electorate. I think this piece in today's Guardian summarises his situation nicely:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/barack-obama-david-cameron

BARACK OBAMA IN CRISIS AS DAVID CAMERON ARRIVES FOR FIRST STATE VISIT

Quotes:

"In the face of withering Republican attacks – which has seen them promising to repeal almost everything Obama has done – the Democrats are facing sinking polls and staring disaster in the face in mid-term congressional elections in November There is little talk of celebrating Obama's achievements and cementing his authority. Instead, it has become a grim battle for survival, with experts predicting a swath of Republican gains that will give them control of the House of Representatives and could even see them win back the Senate.

"Poll after poll has contained unwanted news for Obama and the Democrats. A Fox poll showed that 41% of voters intended to use their vote to express opposition to Obama, compared to 33% who wanted to express support. A recent CBS poll had Obama's approval rating at an all-time low of 44%. A Rasmussen poll showed Republicans enjoying a six-point lead over the Democrats."

End quotes

So could Hilary Clinton take a leaf from Julia Gillard's book and challenge Obama for the Democratic nomination in 2012?

Will Obama even bother to stand again?

Or will it be President Palin?

For what it's worth my prediction is the election of President (Hilary) Clinton in 2012.

But I don't think the Julia & Hilary show will be a long running one. While I think Gillard will probably win in 2010 I am not so sure about 2013.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 18 July 2010 2:58:35 PM
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Steven, the tragedy of US politics is that the only alternatives are Republicans and Democrats.

At least the Tea Party movement seems a trend away from the 2 party scumbags.

Naturally the Dems and minorities will seek to destroy them and the Republicans will try to hijack them.

OBAMA'S LAST CHANCE will be.... make illegals legal and hunt down their vote. If not this next election, the next one when they can vote as citizens.

Politics and minorities/illegal immigrants is very long term stuff.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Sunday, 18 July 2010 5:01:10 PM
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Obama does the bidding of Wall St and the US Federal Reserve.They want more wars to steal resources/ from Muslim countries.The USA has only its weapons left.The Oligarchs have looted their country and now are using austerity measures to make the people pay for their greed.

Hillary Clinton will be no different.She may in fact be far more aggressive.The USA will conduct military exercises in the South China sea within striking distance of major Chinese cities.The is a reflection of the Cuban missile crisis only this time the USA are the aggressors.

This time facism is enveloping our countries.History is repeating itself.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 18 July 2010 5:19:51 PM
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Arjay wrote:

"Obama does the bidding of Wall St and the US Federal Reserve"

Really?

I thought he did the bidding of the "Zionists".

LOL
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 18 July 2010 6:51:07 PM
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stevenlmeyer, some of the zionists like the Rothchilds own the US Federal Reserve.Would you like to debate this reality?

It was corruption not only by the zionists but congress,and many global corporates who came along for the ride of facism.

Let's debate the reality of Afghanistan steven.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 18 July 2010 7:17:51 PM
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Oh dear, Arjay.

>>Obama does the bidding of Wall St and the US Federal Reserve.They want more wars to steal resources/ from Muslim countries.The USA has only its weapons left.The Oligarchs have looted their country and now are using austerity measures to make the people pay for their greed... zionists like the Rothchilds own the US Federal Reserve.Would you like to debate this reality? It was corruption not only by the zionists but congress,and many global corporates who came along for the ride of facism.<<

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même rubbish, eh?

I'm only surprised that you didn't manage to include 9/11 conspiracy theory in this load of unimaginative twaddle.

Back in the real world, I'd like to think that Americans are wise enough to work out that the Republicans do not represent a positive move, insofar as combatting the problems Obama is handling is concerned.

Sadly, they are currently being fed endless appeals to their "patriotism" by various far-right noise-boxes, and will probably knee-jerk their vote to make an unholy mess of their administration for the next two years.

If they do, it is more likely than not that Hilary will sink along with Obama.

Fortunately though, they aren't quite dumb enough to elect Palin, who has all the credibility of Bananas in Pajamas. Nor the Tea Party, whose idea of getting the country out of trouble is to reduce taxation first, then find ways to gut expenditure later. Nor the father and son comedy team, Ron and Rand Paul, whose economic policies would dissolve like rice paper the moment they are articulated.

The US will eventually work out that they have, as a population, gorged themselves on borrowed money to buy plasma TVs to install in their double-wides, as well as houses they couldn't afford in a lifetime of sweeping floors in tacky diners, and need - at some time fairly soon - to tighten their collective belt.

But not, I suspect, while they have someone that they feel entitled to blame for their stupidity, who just happens to be a) black and b) a Democrat.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 19 July 2010 12:13:06 AM
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