Dear Ludwig

50,000 visa overstayers does not translate into 50,000 new Aussies.

See the DIMMIA FACT SHEET.

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/86overstayers-and-other-unlawful-non-citizens.htm

Exclusion from Australia

Persons who overstay their visa by more than 28 days become subject to an exclusion period that prevents them from being granted a temporary visa to travel to Australia for three years. This exclusion period applies whether they leave voluntarily or not.

Even after the exclusion period has finished, the person cannot be granted a visa unless they repay any debt they owe to the Commonwealth, including for costs of removal, or they make satisfactory arrangements to repay their debt.

COMMENT.. sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Ludwig.. with your last post I hereby appoints you a BECK FAN :)

I think you would enjoy him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ3-Lcbwmc

Again all you proclaim is correct Peter and I encourage you to continue educating Australians. For far too many years Australian criminals have had it all too easy and in fact encouraged to use archaic legislation in place to commit offences, knowing full well they will walk after taking innocent lives or be given light sentencing.

Victims and their families are at the entire mercy of magistrates, judges, court clerks [who mysteriously lose evidence never to be found], some lawyers and barristers paid off, silenced or ignored.

Nothing will ever change if we remain silent or tsk tsk after hearing of yet another relative, family friend, colleague or associate innocently murdered or abused.

<< 50,000 visa overstayers does not translate into 50,000 new Aussies >>

I understand that AL.

I presume that the 50 000 overstayers are all illegal overstayers and not people whose visas have been legitimately extended, although that is not clear on the Australian Immigration fact sheet 86, to which you provided the link.

My point is that visa overstayers, without permission to do so, are breaking the law, and it seems to be an ongoing issue, which means that either the law needs to be changed in line with what is accepted practice or the policing regime needs to be improved so that the law is adhered to and those who break it cop a significant fine.

<< COMMENT.. sounds pretty reasonable to me. >>

With something like 50 000 visa overstayers always in this country? I don’t think so.

Do all those who overstay by more than 28 days get caught or do most of them just go home with no penalty or no restrictions on them returning? Again, it is not at all clear.

Why is there a 28 day grace period? Is that not virtually the same as saying that your visa expires on a particular date but in reality it expires 4 weeks later?

<< I hereby appoints you a BECK FAN :) >>

Yeah I saw that vid when you posted the link on a different thread yesterday. Seems like Glenn Beck is pretty turned on in the right sort of way.

Ludwig: << Seems like Glenn Beck is pretty turned on in the right sort of way. >>

Dear oh dear, Ludwig. Do you walk like a duck too? I mean you talk like one, and keep the company of them...

And you wonder why people are giving you short shrift?

AL, hey AAAAL, that nasty CJ doesn't like your vid or our mate Glenn, and he's giving me a hard time over it.

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