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PM Gillard endorses OLO approach to debate but does it work?

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You mean you're LEAVING leaving qanda??

I misunderstood that part.

DON'T YOU DAMN WELL DARE!
Posted by Ginx, Monday, 19 July 2010 12:35:31 PM
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qanda,
I well recall some of the attacks you sustained from GY on AGW and don't blame you. Nevertheless, in order to forestall the conservative tide of ignorant opinion that threatens to swamp action on AGW, I urge you to continue to add your voice in future discussions oo that vitally important topic.
Burn your ships, by all means, but keep your bridges serviceable (a subtle distinction).
Posted by Squeers, Monday, 19 July 2010 12:43:48 PM
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Um, what attacks were those Squeers? Link would be good. I generally cross swords with Qanda when he is patronising someone on the forum and holding himself out as an expert. I note he's asking for some sort of an apology from me but no hint of why. (I am the person who generally does the "admin").

He also accuses me of slandering him "without even knowing who I am for God's sake". Well, anonymous posters don't have a reputation apart from what they say on this forum, so can't be slandered. He claims to be a scientist, but has said a number of things on this forum which suggest he isn't. So he can be judged on those things. If he wants to vindicate his position he can come out. But I guess he won't, and if he won't you should ask why.

Qanda refers to a thread where he claimed he was threatened for his argument http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1646&page=0#31745. In fact he was warned because of his abuse of another poster. The post that was taken down had nothing in it about global warming at all. If these matters were not confidential I would be happy to post the comment to prove my point.
Posted by GrahamY, Monday, 19 July 2010 9:29:27 PM
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Severin sorry to hear how unwell you have been, forgive me for not noting it earlier.
It is very much true I wander about in my work and politics world and some times the important things slip past me.
I am aware Ginx has health issues too so hope life is fun for you both.
In my work life I try to settle disputes, no not bloody minded boots and all union action, it is yesterdays way.
If I need to be heard I am but consider this.
What outcome do you want from this bun fight?
What do you think the most likely outcome if it continues will be?
Now I once said while I live I learn and grow, my first year of posting here shows that to be true.
But I had 4000 posts in other much more combative forums.
Two sides both holding their ground will never see victory.
Look at the whole thing, our own inputs into it too.
I have adopted the view I should re read my posts before posting, and that I can live with hurts and such.
Throwing the pet dog over one another's fence will get no one any place.
Why not take it to the car park another thread better still why not do it via e mail?
In HIGHLIGHTING such a dispute we make possible outcomes much more likely to do harm to all.
After re reading if it must take place this is the thread for it but must it?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 5:36:53 AM
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Dear Belly

We do not always see eye to eye, but you have always had my respect. I think that you would know enough of my history to know that I am no more aggressive than your good self. We both know which posters are bullies and given to derogatory comments to any they disagree with.

In addition I have not posted anything online anywhere on this forum or others, I would be embarrassed at reading on the front page of the newspaper.

In the past I have tried to negotiate via email. I cannot say anything further, I was informed that anything written in emails by the moderator cannot be repeated here. My post was deleted and I was suspended for a week.

Thank you for your concerns for my health - while this can effect the number of posts I make, no matter how well or not I may be feeling, my beliefs remain the same; that no-one is above critique, we all have the right to express our opinions here in this wonderful land.

Finally, I do not wish to continue this absurd "bun-fight". I am disappointed that QANDA has been silenced, I can only hope that it is temporary.
Posted by Severin, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 8:35:49 AM
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Qanda has not been "silenced". He has gone away. There was no pressure on him to do that. I wish you would stick to the facts Severin instead of making them up.
Posted by GrahamY, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 9:16:21 AM
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