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Are Immigrants Racist?

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Amel. People also get frustrated and angry about other people coming into Australia with attitudes, causing problems and demanding more rights and respect than the rest. Thats why Cronulla happened. Everybody has an excuse and justification Amel but it doesn't always make it right.

If these Muslims respected Australia they wouldn't challenge Australians way of life and actively insult their culture.

Does a Muslim suddenly become incapable of racism when they leave their own Country and enter Australia?

Or isn't there any racism in middle eastern countries?
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 25 January 2007 8:20:59 AM
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Jolanda, I'm not really talking about the Arab muslim situation in Australia. I know about the problems in Sudan and in other countries.

I'm refering to the racism and discrimination,not about the people who want different treatment or to dominate society.

When people come to a country to live in some peace,and to get on with their lives shouldn't they be allowed too? Like in most countries?
Posted by Amel, Thursday, 25 January 2007 8:53:46 AM
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Amel “When people come to a country to live in some peace,and to get on with their lives shouldn't they be allowed too?”

Yes they should.

However, they should also be mindful of the social and cultural values which prevail in the country which they are seeking to “live in some peace”.

Describing the acceptable dress choices of the majority of youthful females of the prevailing society as “uncovered meat” does not reflect the values of someone who came here to “live in some peace”

Publicly announcing that Muslim immigrants have a greater right to live here than people whose ancestors arrived here 200 years ago does, not reflect the values of someone who came here to “live in some peace”.

Recognising or accrediting or not rejecting an identified leader who makes inflammatory and unconscionable comments, places all members of the minority community in the same camp as their identified (and presumably supported) leader.

Any migrant community which comes to Australia and expects to “live in some peace” has a duty to respect the values of the incumbent majority. That immigrant community need to question their attitudes and values when and if they conflict with the attitudes and values of that majority, otherwise, the opportunity to “live in some peace” is not going to happen.

The reason Muslims seem to be getting a bad public reputation and seem to attract extra criticism is not because Australians are racist or intolerant of people of different races or religions.

It is because of the practice of the Muslim community leaders to denigrate and criticise the long held rights and values of the non-muslim majority.

If Muslims want to achieve a better public profile than the one they have got and “live on some peace”, they better publicly denounce and dump Halaly and the other bigoted leaders for themselves.

Non-Muslims are not responsible for the deficiencies of Muslims or Muslims community Leaders, Muslims are.
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 25 January 2007 9:30:58 AM
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Actually little dickie, I work with youth,children and those children you choose to call delinquents & speak so authoriatively about.

I showed your post to a colleague who also works in this area and her response was, 'don't you get tired of hearing that silver-bullet craap from no-brainers like that'.

What do you do besides sitting around concocting bigoted theories about non-white peoples and others to test here on OLO?

Do you do anything productive that contributes to humanity in your life?

I reckon its time you did some walking to back up your talking little dickie, get out and talk to youth, ask them about their lives, get down and listen a bit instead of pontificating.

Or arn't you able to do these simple human acts? If not then I reckon thats a bigger problem than any young one I've worked with or who have decided to make me one of their friends.

No run along and go chat with your other mates here on OLO who are too scared to get real, too scared to get down and learn something new about the world around them beyond your safe bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic,selfish, insecurities.

Now you've been told, take it in and think
Posted by Rainier, Thursday, 25 January 2007 10:48:07 AM
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David Latimer: "Racial discrimination is illegal in Australia. If you act on your racial beliefs you reject the laws of our nation." Absolutely. That why those that started the Cronulla riots, should be dealt with in exactly the same manner as those that retaliated. They are all as bad as each other.

One of the problems that I have seen and that is becoming evident in these discussions, is that a number of people have some difficulty accepting that white Australian's can be subject to racism as well as anyone else. On another thread I described being verbally attacked by an aboriginal man and called a "white etc". This type of treatment is common in some rural towns (particularly in north western NSW). I (and others of my race) am subjected to comments about "uncovered meat" by a twit (I think we all know who this is). These are two prominent examples that stick in my head. Other "races" can be very racist indeed, but there appear to many that attempt to treat racism as a white phenomenon. What about the various ethnic cleansing that goes on around the world, some quite recent? I'm not trying to deny that some white people are racist, but they are not the only ones.

Amel, the UK is not a very good example of somewhere that multiculturalism has worked. There are significant racial and religious tensions that still exist. That said, those that have immigrated to England from colonial countries (such as India) appear to have fitted in better (by way of fewer inter-group tensions) than more recent arrivals.
Posted by Country Gal, Thursday, 25 January 2007 10:59:43 AM
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My dear Ranier

I tremble for the children in your care. And what hope do they have who enter your web of maliferous ill-will?
Posted by dickie, Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:32:28 AM
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