CJ Morgan

I do take your point and had Yabby actually been amenable to discussion, I would've elaborated that I agreed with Gillard's actions, but for different reasons to the crustacean's.

I don't see how the Federal Government could've compromised any less, given how symbiotic has the relationship between government and big business become. This relationship has become entrenched over decades and not likely to change.

While, I am relieved that Rudd has gone (his responses in a number of interviews to which I listened were increasingly brittle) and am very hopeful for the leadership of Gillard, I will still be giving my first preferences to the Greens. However, with Gillard at the helm, I believe a number of people who were probably going to swing towards the Greens will now go back to Labor. All of which means we will remain a 2 party state.

Again I will vote below the line, being very mindful of my preferences.

Severin... we are lumbered with deadwood at the top, middle and bottom of the voting tree, and political oak.

How an ALP voter could swing back to the ALP from the Greens is beyond me, after all, what has actually changed since Rudd left, apart from ridding us of Rudd (thankfully)?

I hope everyone is going to send in questions to Q&A to the Roman Catholic in charge of 'sustainable' population... now we do all know that was a Gillard joke don't we?

A bit like having the Pope in charge of enquiring into child abuse isn't it?

The Pope will find nothing but badly behaved boys and kindly priests who struggle in difficult conditions (I think I heard some Arch(fiend)Bishop saying on RN just now), and Burke will discover that to be 'sustainable' we have to increase the levels of population to keep mines working...to about 36-50m people by 2050...never mind the lack of water and top soil.

SEverin, you wrote about the symbiotic relationship between government and big business... that's known as 'organised crime'.

I think we could do with some of what Squeers was talking about in another thread, to change the path of our 'democracy' away from the current empty circus tent it has become, towards a more involved and engaged activity.

It won't happen because it would require effort, and our electors shy away from 'effort' preferring to stick to 'personalities'. Much easier to handle, and understand.

Ooops.... two posts in a row.

If you all want a larf... go to JUlia's blog and read all the bon mots from the Belly types over the 'tax reform':

http://alp.org.au/resources-tax-reform-%E2%80%93-delivering-better-share-australians

The most "immediate" consequence to the Gillard/miners deal is that Mr Abbott is now a lone wolf, with nowhere to go but down.

He's been "pretending" he's on the miners' side and "pretending" that he and the miners are as one. Now it's been shown that the miners and Labor are as one (and they've got it in 'writing'). Mr Abbott has promised to rescind the deal if the Liberals win the next election, therefore he'll be battling Labor AND the miners AND the Aussie public in the election campaign.

In other words, Mr Abbott would be the KISS OF DEATH for the Liberal Party at the election.

Therefore...................

My prediction is that the Liberals will NOT go into the upcoming election with Mr Abbott as leader. Mr Hockey will be leader. They will of course lose the election, but the damage will be lessened NOT because Mr Hockey is the leader, but because Mr Abbott is NOT the leader.

Later on they'll dump Mr Hockey (for obvious reasons). There are no "real" leaders currently among the parliamentry Liberals.

There's a chance that later on Mr Costello will return, but while he's a good money manager, he's also no leader. Currently, there's only 2 other alternatives Mr Howard and Mr Turnbull (both of whom are very strong leaders); but neither will return to politics.

Errr... Turnbull has not left though.... and he could lead the Liberals again but not while people like Abbott, Minchin, Robb, The Bee Hive and others remain clogging up the Liberal lifeline and keeping decent people out of parliament..oh yea, and goons like Hefferlump and Tuckey too.

Time for a few swags to be rolled.

"At least you got it right once in your life" :)

Posted by Yabby, Friday, 2 July 2010 5:55:59 PM
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"And then Yabby goes and spoils it all by saying something......
Stupid."

Posted by Severin, Friday, 2 July 2010 5:59:00 PM
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Actually Sevs,-its ALL WRONG. Yabbs got his statement WRONG -
you've always had it right.

But when you say Yabbs says something stupid, you seem to imply that this is the first time........

Now that's plain WRONG.