So what we have in rehctub's reply to me giving him the opportunity to back up his false claims, is an admiktted complete and total incapacity to back up his political **opinion** with facts and figures.

The country is full of armchair critics of both political parties. These armchair critics **ALL** know exactly what's wrong with the country, exactly who's to blame and exactly what needs to be done to rectify problems. How do I know that they know all the answers? Well, all you have to do is ask them, and they'll tell you exactly what's wrong, and they'll tell you they are right.

BUT.......

Then you ask them to back up their "opinions" with fact and figures and guess what? All you get is more political "opinion"........ just like rehctub and SM.

That's why these armchair critics and armchair experts (on both sides of the political spectrum) live their lives in obscurity (people like rehctub and Shadow Minister etc etc) while people with "real" intelligence and drive achieve the highest office in the land.

Do not feel bad about rechtub and shadow minister, both have axes to grind.
SM fits exactly his name here, lost bewildered and prone to silly assertions.
Both can not bring themselves to know the truth Labor will have an increased majority.
Abbott the Rabbott will be the next head to roll.
Maybe even before the election, if it is months away he is more than unlikely to be there.
Abbott who got behind his leader, with knife in hand should look over his shoulder post election Hockey will emerge to lead.

Belly, I doubt whether anyone is likely to put up their hand to overthrow Abbott before the election. They were probably beginning to think they had a chance before Labor decided to act.
One would expect Abbott and most of his shadow front bench to go quietly down the gurgler after election time. I predict that Turnbull will take up where he left off after the election - although I'm sure Hockey will be in for the contest.

If you had that right about Turnbull, no better second in charge could be found than Hockey.
But Turnbull while the man for the job may not get an invite.
However for the very same reason Rudd went Abbott well could too,and before the election.
The man has form, he just can not keep his mouth out of trouble, both increasing ALP polls and decreasing conservative ones can maybe will unseat him before the loss.
In time it will Be such as Turnbull who returns Liberals to power

Belly,

I agree that it may be tempting to jettison Abbott before the election,
However, I can't see that anyone would really want to take up the leadership post at such short notice, lose the election and have their chance dashed before they've had a chance to really stamp their personality on the leadership.
They were having a bit of a coasting ride toward election day prior to Rudd's demise, however, now they are going to have to articulate their policies and control Abbott's mouth at the same time.
If Abbott loses, I think his shadow ministers, who were all shunted into position after they ousted Turnbull, will be washed up.
Turnbull decided to stick around because he knows he is Prime Minister material - and he was incensed that Rudd pushed aside the ETS. My bet is if Abbott loses, the Liberals will do an about face and rush back to Turnbull.

benq, you asked me to provide actual figure of the money that has been wasted, and I can't. I have told you that.

So, rather than try to make fun of me, why don't you tell us just where the money went and what KR has achieved with our 130 odd Billion.

Now I recon you might be puching it 'up hill' if you genuinely think that billions have not been wasted.

Now as for Tony Abbot, he has placed enough presure on Krud, that he has resigned, and that is a win for all Australians in it self, don't you all think.

Meanwhile, madam Pm is doing a great job at upsetting the gays and the god botherers.

Ploitics todays seems like a good old game of 'foot in mouth', hey!