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Kevin Rudd - The biggest loser!

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Benq

Your latest post summarised my opinion perfectly.

Foxy

Julie Bishop has not risen further NOT because she is a woman but because she is both sycophantic and just not all that smart (haven't you noticed how she always speaks in rhetorical sound bites?).

Yabby

Take a bex and lie down. You'll feel better in about 5 days.
Posted by Severin, Saturday, 26 June 2010 9:24:41 AM
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On Monday 21st June, Rudd and Abbott went head to head, at the Australian Christian Lobby pre-election podcast from Old Parliament House, and it was taken by Churches from all over Australia. Kevin was glib, Abbott was a bit staccato, but Abbott stated that the separation of the powers of Church and State was important.

Both recognised that the greatest grass roots political movement in the world is the Christian Church. It reaches out from Australia and has a beneficial influence wherever it takes root. It could have a much greater beneficial influence in Australia if our Churchmen actually understood just how deeply rooted Christian tradition is embedded in our institutions. Kevin Rudd unfortunately had failed to understand that the Parliament of the Commonwealth is totally impotent, while it has a bevy of lawyers, intent on preserving the power of the States and unwilling to assert the superior power for good of the Commonwealth.

As a Christian, I argue with an agnostic friend, that the State has become a de-facto Church. He argues that it is simply big business, with all the evils that affect big business, and since the Australia Act 1986, all the States are big business too. As Churches they have integrated their power from Magistrates to Supreme Court and vested it in single individuals, totally dependant upon each State Government. As Big Business all nine of them are infected with enormous corruption, and the propensity of Big Business to bribe and seek special favors, has no limits whatsoever.

I respect Julia Gillard’s scepticism, about the value of Almighty God, and her decision to affirm her commitment rather than take an Oath. Its probably better to affirm and mean it, than take an Oath and not. What I hope she will do is assert the supremacy of the Judicial power of the Commonwealth and establish a Federal Judicial Commission, to take over and separate from the States, the forces to execute and maintain the laws of the Commonwealth. This Commission should be fully funded to pay every Judge and Magistrate in Australia so they cannot be corrupt
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:06:14 AM
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Dear Yabby,

Your comment to Pynch with the "Period"
reference is most inappropriate and too
personal. No female has made any personal
references to your masculine quirks/or
lack of them
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 26 June 2010 11:31:54 AM
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Yabby, people blaming "big biz" are about as paranoid as people ranting that the miners would leave over the unions.

As to Ms Gillard PM, yes, She is admittedly a tool of the Unions, in precisely the same way that Abbot is the tool of the BCA & Mining Council of Australia. And?

We have actually, finally, returned to the system of government that this Country was built under. Business groups supporting one party & the unions & workers the other.

That the "boat people" are not to be an election issue has already been spelled out, "border protection" will be the same regardless of which major party is in power, which is as it should be. The vast majority of Australian voters have no time for illegal immigrants and to suggest otherwise is demonstrably wrong (Not PC perhaps, but a fact nonetheless).

Let's fix this Country and stop running on scaremongering about irrelevant crud. Personally, I hope that Labor wins the election, as I think they now stand a REAL chance of doing. As for Kev being knifed in the back, was he done down any more than Turnbull, Costello or the other twit (such a nonentity I can honestly not recall his name)?

Julia Gillard has been elected to her seat, and to the leadership of the Labor Party, and has been properly sworn in by the Governor-General. That makes Her our PM, regardless of whether or not she got there via an election, She is Constitutionally Speaking, our Rightful Prime Minister. Kevin Rudd was elected to his seat and by Caucus to leadership of the Labor Party, He has now been dumped by Caucus, so he is no longer PM.

Rudd went because he lost credibility, he was losing ground to a man who stated OPENLY that he tells lies ffs. He looked and sounded like a fool within his first term, he made the cardinal mistake of trying to "out-bloke" an actual "bloke", and came across as a try-hard (a deadly sin in this Country).
Posted by Custard, Saturday, 26 June 2010 1:01:49 PM
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*Yabby, people blaming "big biz" are about as paranoid as people ranting that the miners would leave over the unions.*

Err Custard, I can't recall anyone here ranting that the miners
would leave over the unions. But people like me have indeed
pointed out that some union thugs are in fact experts at
thuggery, which has little to do with the "poor workers", as
so many seem to think.

If you really think that is to the benefit of Australians and
the Australian economy, well that is up to you. I would hardly
agree. In fact the big losers have been taxpayers, for when
thuggery breaks out at WA building sites, a great many are
Govt projects and costs are simply passed on to those taxpayers.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 26 June 2010 1:49:29 PM
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benq>>The surplus could have been achieved by even a trained monkey (be it Labor or Liberal)

Ah yes, but first they had to claw back the huge debt left by labor. Now that took more than a trained monkey.

So, what did labor do to assit in the recovery. They made employing people harder.

They said, and I quote "no worker will be worse off", but hey, take a stroll to your local eatery any Sunday and you will be lucky to see any staff, other than owners, over the age of 16.

So are those who lost their sunday gigs not worse off?

BTW, they were quite happy with thier sunday gigs!

Now I don't object to the stimulus, it's just the way they allowed it to be wasted.

The best way to stimulate an ecconomy is to make it easier for workers to gain employment as they then pay taxes and spend money.

Now speaking of 'tained monkeys' even they know that.

As I have said previously, there was a link between the 'boom times' as you put it and 'the removal of the hoops' when it came to employing.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 26 June 2010 9:48:16 PM
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