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The Irish Catholic doctrine of the 20th Century as practiced in Australia, and remember Catholicism in Australia has been dominated by Irishism from the very beginning is based on fear, intolerance and down right terror. If there was such a place as Hell, and we know there is not, it would be populated by Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Brothers Nuns etc. One thing that I am thankful about from my Catholic education is I see Christianity for what it is, Rubbish. Fortunately I was never sexually abused, by Church scum, but was certainly physically abused (another thing the Churches should admit to).
A few years ago I had the 'pleasure' of attending a school reunion, and who should show up, an old brother of mine, about 90, frail, weak, hopefully dieing in pain and in a wheel chair, he was a fetted as an honored guest, until I had the 'pleasure' of being introduced to him "Paul you remember Brother?, "Oh yes I remember Brother! Still sexually abusing 13 year old boys.... Brother?" It went down like a lead balloon, I was asked to leave by a senior member of the Catholic Clergy, he was not the least bit interested in Brothers past, must protect the good name of the Church (sick).

That's Christianity 20th Century style.

Dear POIROT.... fraidy cat ? :) Let me ask in one more 'measured' way.... if you can see in that passage I cited, reasonable grounds for concern "if" such social values were practiced or promoted in Australia?

Here is one thing which lifts the lid on the kind of thing referred to in that passage.... from a Western cult perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69S2fI_GAzo&feature=related

I staggers my mind to think that when we criticize similar things in a particular non Christian faith, all I get from a small group of very strange people is "you are stirring up fear, hate and loathing"... they often add a couple more colorful adjectives to boot.

I cannot for the life of me understand how exposure and criticism of particular ideas..such as manifest in that video above, can be seen to be 'inciting fear hate and loathing' other than the justifiable hatred of child sexual exploitation.

I need your continued restraining wisdom.. I accomodate your attitude much better than the 'fear and loathing' mob :)

Your observation on the threat/feel level is quite true... but there is another dimension. The attempts at structural change which benefit an oppressive ideology need to be countered also in my view.

SOG.. very perceptive .//because we know there would be a one in a zillion chance of it happening in a Muslim country.//

Perhaps this striking observation is also a wakeup call to Aussies to work together so that AU never 'becomes' such a country ?

FOXINESS.... I'm trying to avoid such blatant 'verse quoting' unless it suits the context... in this one.. it kinda does :)

"Blessed are the peacemakers" *handshake* ? :)

I don't think you would like your mum to say to you at 50 "Foxy.. when youuuuu were 12..you did such and such" - do for others.....

Paul good on you for not letting important words be unsaid. That St Patrick had a lot to answer for regards the Irish.

(Poirot I just have to say I love your witty posts and can see David Suchet as the indomitable man himself in your comments although I do sense some "unresolved indigo in your aura"). ;)

Dear Al,
You flatter me.
I can understand that you are bewildered because you cannot fathom the reasons for the criticism that you attract.
You are a passionate soul about this and other issues connected to the Muslim faith.
Perhaps you should change tack and spend a little more time extolling the virtues of your own faith, and a little less time pointing out the deficiencies of the other.

Bonjour Pelican,
(It is difficult in this thread not to present myself in character - a bit of fun)
David Suchet was born to play that role - did you know that Agatha Christie's daughter actually suggested him for the role?
I have resolved to set about resolving my unresolved indigo - will get back to you on that one.

Inspector Poirot... au contraire.. I absolutely do see why I attract criticism.
I am difficult to endure at times. (I get sick of me too :)

Of course I could extol the values of my own faith :) and have often done so here..and attracted similar criticism. If I'm not being hung for 'Islamophobia' I'm being stoned for 'forcing your views on others' :)

So...no bewilderment on that issue.. what definitely does bewilder me though is where people like Bishop Pericles, who is one of my most vehement critics.. will not so much as lift a keystroke to examine the same evidence you already have. His mini me CJ just tacks on some chirping and/or muttering at the end of the Bishops attack :)

If you saw (and had already lived) dangers in certain ideas gaining prominance and acceptance.. such as illustrated by that video (COG).. where they speak the same language as we evangelicals.. some of their preaching would be the envy of some of us I'm sure.. they grew... spread all over the world.. but then the truth came out...they were exploiting and abusing children and had such behavior as a 'doctrine'.

It's one thing for Catholic priests to be opportunistic..doing it on the sly.. it's entirely another to actually have such behavior codified and promoted within your organization.

Did you not notice that girl in that vid becoming almost hysterical when she realized that their 'in house' information about adult child sex was in the hands of the media ?

"you people think sex is bad.. you all hate us.. now your going to.. etc"
That from a young child for goodness sake...

The point of having said all that.. is that early exposure is much better than belated repair of lives.. no ?

Forums such as this..enable wide contact and dissemination of views and criticism...of such things. (welcome to 'me' :)

Paul1405
If you have evidence of your paedophile claim, a school reunion was not the appropiate place to state it. Have you made a statement to the Police? If not, you are a coward and the removal of yourself was very appropiate. Until you have taken it to the police; your post here is rather a cowards court! You reveal yourself as a fraud.

["Paul you remember Brother?, "Oh yes I remember Brother! Still sexually abusing 13 year old boys.... Brother?" It went down like a lead balloon, I was asked to leave by a senior member of the Catholic Clergy, he was not the least bit interested in Brothers past, must protect the good name of the Church (sick).]

That's Christianity 20th Century style.Posted by Paul1405,