I recall a similar debate about 10 years ago where it was deemed that we were going to be "swamped by Asians".

Remember them?

They don't integrate, they form ghettos, they don't respect our way of life, they have bizarre customs, they don't respect our women or our religion, they steal our welfare and so on.

We were also in fear of the Triad crime gangs who were allegedy already dominating the drug industry and were set to take over all organised crime.

Before them it was the Italians, Greeks and Europeans generally - right back to Federation (which was historically the result of anti-Chinese sentiments, not some grandiose vision of independence).

Immigration levels have likely increased since that time and not much has happened.

So what went wrong - or did something "go right"?

No, we just found somebody else to hate.

Proxy,
Would you like some equally disturbing quotes from the Torah and the Bible?

Muslims do not drink and they raise children who do not drink. This means that other Australians will not have to worry about them endangering the lives of others and pushing up insurance premiums through reckless behaviour on the roads and elsewhere.

And when people convert to Islam they stop drinking and do not find it difficult. So there is something there to be learned by the broader Australian community in light of the serious problems we face with alcohol and other drugs.

Prince Charles has also recently had something positive to say (and learn):

"June 11 2010

Prince Charles yesterday urged the world to follow Islamic ’spiritual principles’ in order to protect the environment.

In an hour-long speech, the heir to the throne argued that man’s destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions – but particularly those of Islam.

He said the current ‘division’ between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment – which goes against the grain of ’sacred traditions’.

Charles, who is a practising Christian and will become the head of the Church of England when he succeeds to the throne, spoke in depth about his own study of the Koran which, he said, tells its followers that there is ‘no separation between man and nature’ and says we must always live within our environment’s limits."
http://muslimvillage.com/2010/06/11/follow-islamic-spiritual-principles-to-protect-the-environment-prince-charles/

Proxy,
you forgot Lambing flat against the Chinese and countless whitey attacks on indigenous peoples.
Your reasoning is in bad need of removing the eye patch and use of both eyes.

There is no doubt that Muslims have been demonised.Where is most of the world's oil? Which countries have invaded Muslim countries and now threaten Iran? In Afghanistan is drugs, and Turkmenistan just above oil and gas.It is Western Imperialism using the wedge of religion amd racism to justify the invasion of oil rich countries.

Dear Pelly

//Al and Proxy
Please tell me how it is an inept analogy. You are quite quick off the mark in pointing out atrocities committed by Muslims but quite blinkered to those committed by other faiths.//

Actually.... I've not pointed out 'any' atrocities carried out by Muslims here. All I've done is point out something about Foxies agenda and how it should be scrutinized.

//"Thankfully most of us don't judge all Christians on the basis of a text written centuries ago."//

Please..OH PLEASE DO..do..DO judge us on what was written centuries ago :) that would be one of my wildest nicest dreams come TRUE...

We could discuss what the scriptures REALLY do say rather than what is assumed they say.

I will happily be judged on "For God so LOVED the world..that He gave His only Son..that whoever believes in Him will not Perish but have everlasting life"...

YES YES :) judge me judge me!

2Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. II Cor 4:2ff

YES YES.. judge away to your hearts content :)

44All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. Acts 2

YEP.. most happy to be judged on all that.

OH wait.. you might like to judge us also one some of the darkers stuff :)

"If they (wives) disobey you.. BEAT them" 4:34

Oops - wrong book :) so..don't judge us on that one.. judge the other mob.