On yers Banjo... being a 'Christian' is not sufficient to guarantee good behaviour, as you point out.

Unfortunately, the 'good' Christians often deny having anything to do with those people of their ilk who misbehave, describing them as 'not real Christians'.

Of course, there is no such thing as 'a real Christian' anywhere, because, being people, we are all different.

Note how the ACL pretends to voice the concerns of 'Christians', while not ever being able to say precisely who they speak for, beyond the very small cabal of the owners of their private company, posing as a community lobby group.

And what about the Pope, who sets himself up to speak for catholics the world over....yet, who, apart from the fundie maniacs within the RC mob, pays any attention to him?

How many RC women in the West allow the Pope into their sexual lives?

But they should all do so, since he 'speaks for them'....if only because women are allowed no voice in that woebegone church, or not voice above a mouse-like decibel anyway.

Foxy's post... while Australians like to regard themselves as being unique in the world as a 'melting pot' of cultures, my last visit to the UK quite shocked me with the wide range of people from all over the world, all settled as 'Poms', with their children speaking in regional accents.

But I never heard anyone there remarking on how 'tolerant' and 'multi-cultural' they were.

Of course.... much of the change is deeply resented,as it is here too, but that is no different to the resentment felt in the 'home counties' when the 'yobbos' from the north invade and 'take our jobs'.

(I was in the pub, in my home town, having a pint or two with some fellow cyclists of my age and older, about 10 of 'em, when I realised they were all foreigners, from 'oop norf', and I, who had not lived there since about 1970, was the only native.)

Should we ask the Indigenous peoples here what they think about their lot, or would that be another thread?

Why can't Westralis speak for him/her self so the view expressed can be clarified? Let us have some genuine honesty, after all this subject is attempting to find positive contributions Muslims have made to Australia. If you believe his/her statement is a positive view of Muslims then you contribute to the underminining of our democratic and free culture.

Such a comment made by Westralis is certainly not a positive contribution to our multicultural way of life. Either he/she believes what they said or they stated it to stirr up conflict. Which means their motives as being dishonest.

Philo, I think you've just reinforced Banjo's point.

I rarely agree with him, but he's spot-on with respect to your indefensible previous coment.

You know you're out of order. Man up and apologise.

Well folks, I've had my say on this
topic.

I think I'm done.

I might just curl up with
The Macquarie Dictionary of
Australian Abusive Terms.

I obviously need to broaden my
vocabulary...

Philo,
You are the one who reproduced Westralis's part post. Now point out where he said anything about agreeing with Jewish and Muslim blasphemy beliefs.

Westralis does not have to further explain. He made a simple statement in which he said that Jews and muslims believed certain things. No reference to his own beliefs.

I think I was gracious in suggesting that you misread his statement.

Foxy misread something I said here the other day and apologised, no big deal, it has happened to me but i like to think that once i am made aware of it, I apologise and retract.

Read again what Westralis stated and be objective. Surely you have to see you erred.

Blue Cross,
I do not get involved in religious debate.

Banjo

We have our disagreements, but I do identify with what you have to say here. I experienced a childhood being taught Christianity at Sunday School and in the public school system. I grew up to see that the adults rarely practised what they preached. OLO is a concentration of such people.

I have apologised where I thought I had gone really too far. It is something that re-opens communicative paths. I am sure it is something that Jesus (if he existed) would support.

Isn't there something in the bible/Qur'an/Torah/Budhhism etc about being humble?