CJ Morgan, as you know I am new to OLO.....who is Boazy, I look back to see who you are responding to and come up empty, no Boazy in sight, is it me missing the posts.

Hi sonofgloin. FYI, 'ALGOREisRICH' is the just the latest pseudonym of a long-term OLO user who used to be 'BOAZ_David', 'Polycarp' etc. He is a fundamentalist Christian member of an obscure sect called the 'Open Brethren', and post endlessly about the evils of Islam, homosexuality, the Greens etc etc.

Those of us who have dealt with his nonsense for years find it clearer to address him as 'Boaz', 'Boazy' etc.

Yes, it is confusing. Quite deliberately so, I believe. In a similar vein, 'Proxy' is also just the latest pseudonym of a serial troll who used to post as 'KMB', 'HermanYutic' etc.

CJ Morgan, thanks for the info, at least now I can put slur and counter slur together.

Hi Sonofgloin....

It might be possible for you and I (with no particular history between us) to have a reasonable conversation.

Notice what CJ said?

"you rationalise your Islamophobia via very selective interpretation of ancient texts"

What he did not tell you is this.. the 'interpration' of said texts is not 'mine' :) Why would CJ hide this fact ? because the "interpretations" I offer are not "mine" but those of respected Islamic Scholars. This is why they resent me so much.

Bear with me for just a moment. Let's try a bit of an exercise.. just between you and I.

How many chapters.. sentences.. do you think Mein Kampf has on 'liquidating all Jews' ? If I'm not mistaken..it has NONE. It does however blame them for everything but global warming which they did not have information on then..but if they did..I'm sure the strong willed child grown to manhood.. Adolph..would have blamed them for that as well.

On the other hand.. if there were specific references calling Muslims to kill Jews.. it would make such information rather dangerous and of considerable concern.

I'm not going to try to take that further here, so feel free to explore that if you wish.

In fact..I don't wish to make ANY "assertion" about Islam here.

But try this.

http://www.quranenglish.com/tafheem_quran/065.htm
I'ts all about "Divorce"

Scroll down to where the numbers say 65:4 on blue background with some Arabic writing.

Now.. have a read of the translation for that verse.. and see how after the phrase "who have not yet menstruated" is followed by *13

Scroll down further.. read the paragraph on *13 and specially toward the end of the first para.

Do you see anything of concern in this Islamic opinion ?

I'm happy to discuss it...but would prefer you draw your own conclusions.

If you do this.. it will be a way of identifying "IslamoPHOBIA" or.. a genuine concern for what type of values are being promoted in Australia.

SOG.. if you want some really edifying viewing :)

This is a vid of the man the Muslims of Melbourne considered worthy to come and lecture them at a major Islamic conference. (as in..mainstream)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SfUKGp4iMg

At around 7 min.. he is in the process of describing how 'long ago' customs allowed old men to marry children... then at 8.00 he rather ...'contemporizes' it all.

I'll leave it to you to make up your own mind...
Just remember one thing please.. this bloke is highly regarded by the Muslim community in Australa (and the world)
You might also like to compare 8.00 from this talk with the information provided in the links in my previous post.

Hi ALGOREisRICH, well it seems that you and CJ are natural protagonists, good on you both, go for it.
We are all selective in the fodder we use to qualify our positions, and the reason we are is because of the stance we take on that issue. That stance derives from the mix of emotional character prerequisites, and input we deem or manipulate to be factual to our sensibilities.

The best path to take when judging any issue is to start with "cause and effect", we should first satisfy ourselves that there is an effect, and that we are not being phobic. Then we identify the cause, and implement a remedy so the effect is not ongoing.

It sounds simple but it does not flow that way in modern western cultures. We give minorities rights above their station and above the common law. When these rights are tagged as "cultural" what we are doing is supplanting a foreign culture for the host culture. Middle Eastern culture is bound so steadfastly to a doctrine of religious and social behavior that was written 500 years ago that it's reformation into the modern world is more than doubtful.

So the western host nations led by the portion of the citizenry under the guise of political correctness are allowing their cultural heritage to slip away so the implanted culture may thrive. Social genocide and some do not see or understand this. These people pander to their emotional egos at the cost of all around them, excepting the implanted culture.

Re our Moslem orator’s qualification that because of life span our forebears married girls extremely early, I do not believe the girls were six. Christians seem to understand that at six the girl is still a baby. Roman girls married from twelve, and in Dark Ages Europe it was from sixteen. Do I believe my modern western society who treat smokers like lepers would turn a blind eye to child marriages in the Islamic embedded community in their midst, you bet I do.