Pericles.. you also have a 'history' ...

CJ yaps in as an afterthought, but he claims Yusuf Islam can change.... but apparently I cannot :)

I've not changed, I have simply altered my strategy. This is quite deliberate. All that needs to be said to you and CJ and a few others has been said by me, it's also 'out there'.

My approach now, is to try to use the forum to see if it is possible to understand your mindset... and see if it is possible to gently draw you to look at specific information which forms the basis for my evaluation of that faith.

You have persistently rejected this, and avoided it, because ?

You comfort yourself with the idea that all I say is based on some kind 'irrational fear and loathing'.. but you do not try to understand where this comes from ..and plainly that is bigotry on your part. It always has been and always will be.

Most of what I've said in the past is based on, or is the opinion of members OF that faith. I think this is why you fear me so much.. to the point of relentless attack on 'me' rather than the message.

Why would you attack 'me' rather than the evidence for my position?

Simple..it's much easier to regard Jews as sub human and send them to death camps than to admit they are human. Same mentality Pericles, you just don't see it.

I provided a link to some information which would help you understand objectively why I and others have grave reservations about (and actual opposition to) Islamic values growing in Australia.

You choose to ignore this, and not even discuss it. That, again..is bigotry. You are a bigot... there is no question about this.
You could easily describe me as one...IF...you have examined the basis for my position..then demonstrated that it is untenable in the light of the facts.

But you avoid this like the plague. You must be afraid.

I am fascinated by your change in tactic, Boaz. It says more about you than you could possibly realize.

I'm particularly intrigued by your insistence that my objections to your consistent whack-a-mozzie antics amount to bigotry. You managed to call me a bigot three times in the one post - I assume you also somehow exempt yourself from the charge of using ad hominem in place of logic.

Fair enough. You have always insisted that the world must play by your rules, so at least nothing has changed there.

But it is the changed approach that is so interesting.

>>My approach now, is to try to use the forum to see if it is possible to understand your mindset<<

You would have been able to do that equally well, if you had wanted, in your Boaz or Polycarp personas.

The reason being, obviously, that I have not altered one iota my own position on the flagrant use of double standards that you employ in pursuing your objectives.

All your "altered strategy" has done is to expose you as being even more expedient in your selection of argument than before.

Let me gently remind you that your first foray in your new disguise was on Proxy's "Mohammed" thread, with a not-so-subtle reminder that the world is in danger of being overrun by - I wonder who?

>>The bigger concern for large numbers of "Mo" [Mohammeds] around is the possibility of electoral control in specific community interests... If one (any)group gains such a foothold.. I suspect it is too late.<<

This is an "altered strategy"?

Looks pretty familiar to me.

Ok, I'll agree that you are trying to be a little more subtle - but then subtlety has never been your strong point, has it? We all know that whatever your professed starting-point - Barking, Clause 61 etc. - your objective remains absolutely transparent to anyone who has followed you all these years.

I guess the only surprise is that you haven't worked that out yet.

It gets better, of course.

>>...and see if it is possible to gently draw you to look at specific information which forms the basis for my evaluation of that faith<<

Boaz, I need absolutely no education in your "evaluation of that faith".

I know what your views are, and I know how you have reached those views.

Your views are that Islam is evil, and that your unique version of Christianity is the dog's bollocks.

You have reached those views by seeing the world entirely through the prism of your religion, and by being highly selective in the evidence you employ by way of illustration.

>>You comfort yourself with the idea that all I say is based on some kind 'irrational fear and loathing'.. but you do not try to understand where this comes from<<

I have absolutely no interest in discovering the origin of your fear and loathing, Boaz. That's strictly between you and your shrink - although I have formed my own impression over the years.

>>Why would you attack 'me' rather than the evidence for my position?<<

Because you are "the evidence for your position". Your entire approach - including the careful selection of quotes from moderate Muslims - is devious, bordering on deceitful.

As I have said on so many previous occasions, I recognize that certain categories of people need a religion for a particular level of emotional support. I respect that. Sometimes, in some circumstances, I can even find it admirable.

But what I do object to, and have always objected to, is the use of one individual or group's view of God as a weapon against another individual or group's view of God. That goes as much for the rabid Proddy dogs and violent Micks of Northern Ireland as it does for Islamic terrorists and self-righteous Christian preachers-of-hate.

>>But you avoid this like the plague. You must be afraid.<<

Another of your new tactics seems to be a form of transference. Unfortunately, it is so transparent as to be laughable.

But have a great day anyway.

Father and Yusef

It was time to make a change
and his folks knew that it's not easy
to be calm when there's lots of Islam going on
so take your time, think a lot
think of all the religions we got
for they will still be there tomorrow, but we indeed may not.

How can Yusef Islam try to explain
when he does his hipocriciy shines through again
it's hard, but it's harder to ignore it
if he was right I'd agree
but the brain wash is evident for all to see
there's a way and he knows that his moneys gone away
he knows his moneys gone away

Boazy: << My approach now, is to try to use the forum to see if it is possible to understand your mindset... and see if it is possible to gently draw you to look at specific information which forms the basis for my evaluation of that faith.

You have persistently rejected this, and avoided it, because ? >>

Boazy, under your "former approach" you posted enough cherrypicked "specific information" for anybody with half a brain to ascertain that you rationalise your Islamophobia via very selective interpretation of ancient texts, combined with a paranoid view that the world riddled is dangerous conspiracies about which you regard it as your mission to warn us.

I certainly have neither a need nor desire to revisit that deranged territory, and I understand why you'd want to distance yourself from it. It's nothing short of nuts.

As for you of all people calling anybody else a bigot - take a look in the mirror, and google "psychological projection", which is what I think Pericles had in mind, rather than transference. Then take your medication.

Why do you want Waleed Aly banned from the ABC again? And why is Yusuf Islam "treacherous"?

typo correction: "a paranoid view that the world is riddled with dangerous conspiracies about which you regard it as your mission to warn us"

Dang.