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Miners and big money spin

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how ignorant you are

bongs are for idiots...[narcs..use them...the water filters out the thc]..besides i gave that up a longtime ago...but the booze seems to be affecting your braincells

yeah i heard of wa..three strikes your in jail for life...unless your a paid/to blog..mouthpiece for money...a real bourke

or the bong/basher,,wilson..iron bar tuckey/bashing the bongs..as well as those he calls booongss...seems all the scum..has drifted west

the police police the people...not the criminals...farmers got their land..via land gift...and put the first people..into gulags...ah/la,,palistein...[they got the idea from you lot]

your a pathetic/money-grubber...bloke...your unable to correct or reply..my questions..thus attack me/..for once using a plant...see how pathetic..you really are

see the scum..you defend..[ever heard of niggeria..[they got shafted by your mates as well...2000 oil..'spills...there

oils-well...when you can turn jungle...into hell

and as for them/..miners fixing it...dream on...miners...dont repair..their damages..they just up/..and go dig somewhere else..where the bourks..can get them their ritches..while their people starve

MINERS..are/allways bringing..in their own workers..fly/in...fly out...so much for making work/jobs..for the boys..yet..the leeches buy million dolar machineries...that devalues our dollar...so they..trading in us..can get yet more return

they forward trade stuff..they havnt got...so they can trade...in the futures paper they do got...when the price...shorts..falls..meaning our super covered the loss

are you ignorant of the many scams...they done over the years...is it you lot..that got the ord/river sceme...its the same nmindset...something for the big guy..nothing for the rest

the delusion..your paying your way...realise..the subsidies the farmers get..in droudt...the treason of the wheatboard..trading with sadam insane..trading with the enemy..lets not get into the sheep..and the wool sceme...the tax payers had to bailout

your a pathetic...old man gabby..its those such as you and iron/bar/bourke...and so many more...so addept at fluffing up your own nests..that approaches the vile of the miners...also not paying their way

comeback with some clever reply..or some mantra..from the past...in reply..to part of my question/mate...

im listing the stuff you dont/cant reply..

.your such a bourke...mr ironbar..grab/fest
the crabby yabby...poops his own nappy
Posted by one under god, Friday, 4 June 2010 6:13:18 AM
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one under god>> we need a transaxction tax..one percent
we need an export tax..two percent
we ned a super gains tax...its time them fatcats paid their way
we pay for infastructure...they get the gain...its moraly corrupt.<<

I suggested previously that in lieu of further taxation, the corporate sector funds infrastructure. This would be beneficial to the plebs not the government. Further the corporates have a vested interest in not letting cost blowouts double the initial quote as govt does every day of the week in its transactions with the private sector, we would actually save money. This is a pipe dream ofcourse; the only nations socially innovative enough to do it would perhaps be the Scandinavians.
Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 4 June 2010 1:14:24 PM
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*I suggested previously that in lieu of further taxation, the corporate sector funds infrastructure.*

Sonofgloin, in fact in many cases, they already do and have done
in the past, using their mining profits. Developing things like
iron ore mines, means building railway lines hundreds of km long,
it means building ports etc. That is why these projects cost so
many millions of $.

Even the Qld coal miners are now buying the railway from the Govt.
That gives them certainty and no doubt they will run it far more
efficiently then it has been run in the past.

The whole idea of privatisation has been that corporate finance
will own and run more infastructure, for as we have seen, most
Govts are pretty useless at running anything efficiently.

OUG, your mumbo jumbo of confusion is hardly a question. Fact is
that a great deal of the public don't pay any net taxation at all,
for last time I checked, there were around 8 million people on some
kind of social welfare payments, which costs around 110 billion $
a year. Health and education take up a good chunk of the rest.

As far as I am concerned, if WA seceded tomorrow, it would be
a great thing. Check your constitution. Minerals are owned by the
States, not by the Commonwealth.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 4 June 2010 2:03:48 PM
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jabby..quote...<<..Fact is/that a great deal of the public/don't pay any net taxation at all,>>>lol..how funny you are gabby

lets assume...everyone eats/buys consumables...ever hear of GST?

thats not a tax...?
lol ya retarded/deciever

how about the mug/smokers..paying 6 billion via a new overnight tax?

OR property tax..or income tax...lol on wages

or compulsory rego/licence fees/charges

or tax on ya services..on ya house

mate...at least give to the people..THEY ARE BEING TAXED TO DEATH

<<for last time I checked,..there were around 8 million people on some
kind of social welfare payments,>>>yeah...social/security..one of the few ways..taxpayers..get anything back

but what about you fasrmers..getting droudt assistans...free/water aloqwences..then selling them back...via some govt buy/back,,SCEME

<<ss..which costs around 110 billion $
a year.>>>yea...aint it great...where you think that moola comes from...GOVT LENDS IT DIRECT FROM THE FED RESERVE
at interest...[thats why we gotta pay ever more tax ya dunmmy..to pay back that govt gives away to its mates]

it even GAVE away..the fed reserve..[great privatisation that one...the bankers then stole the gold/silver[heard of deciminalisation

used to be a six-pence..was silver...but after ww2...we had such debt/war debt..the war mongers got it all,,,,well the mint halved the silver

till 66 when they took it all
then the fools..tok in their silver florin/shilling/sixpences
copntaining 6 dollars of silver,..,and got a nice new shinny...twenty/cent/ten cent/5 cent piece..

worth...less that a penny weight of copper
but even now they done away with copper/coins alltogether..turns out a one cent coin..contains 5 cents worth of copper...lol

talk aboyt grandtheft

then there is a theft via inflation...turns out a deflation rate..of any percentage..STEALS..the value..off our money

a house/priced in silver/..still costs the same...
in/WEIGHT of silver...lol

but its value in dolars/cents..it/keeps costing us more
because the bankers keep adjusting it's/value..for inflation

next to ursury...thats a huge/crime/conducted..by the elites/landed gentry..in the know..

[who at decimalisation/../turned their/pre-decimal money..into the round fifty-cent pieces..containing..STERLING_SILVER...while the fools got nickle...lol

who/got land-grants/and ever more govt largess/bailouts
over the sheeple.../the imbisiles..idiots/lunatics
[using king/g's own/words]

its despicable..the criminal activity..your defending
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 5 June 2010 9:52:58 AM
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OUG, the key word in my point was NET, as distinct from GROSS.

Big difference. If the Govt gives you money to pay tax and you
pay less tax then they give you in money, then you are not a NET
taxpayer.

Do you know how many different kind of payments that Govt dishes
out? It is huge. Last time I checked, which is a year or two
ago now, there were something like 8 million tax payers and
8 million people receiving one kind of Govt payment or another.

Baby bonus, invalid pensions, carer pension, disability pensions,
income support supplement, the list goes on and on. I even found
a thing called a "wife pension" on the ATO website.

So whilst you personally might be a net taxpayer, millions are
not, as simply too many are sucking on the Govt teat.

Yes, farmers in NSW, QLD and Victoria are paid drought aid.
Leave WA out of it, its not coming over here. Western Australia
has Australia's most efficient farm sector.

Yes indeed Govts stopped making silver coins, because when the
price of silver rose, the public started melting them down for
their silver value, leaving some countries with an accute shortage
of coinage. Duh, if you can't see the reasoning behind why change
was needed, I can't really help you and nore can anywone else.

But we have been through all this before OUG and I'm
still convinced that the THD has done some real damage to your
thinking abilities.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 5 June 2010 1:02:16 PM
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oh...yabby...the silver...belonged to us all...we each should have gotten...a share...same when they privatised the commonwealth bank/...and telicom..WHERE IS OUR SHARE

instead...bankers were allowed to lease it...[like gold/which was leased to bankers]..at $33.33/per ounce..god alone knows how they are going to buy it back..if someone ever calls back their.."lifetime"...?lease

mate..many of those you claim/to be sukking the public purse...werre willing to die for you...or had their husbands/die...besides..all the cash/goes to multinational's...ie its spent into the economy...so the rich/can by yabbies/for egsample

by the by...its thc..not thd...but thats ok...if i hadnt got sent to jail...for letting a plant grow..lol..i would stil be one of them slave/wage...workers..working to survive...and wouldnt have had to learn the vile..of why/how govt can jail..its own citisenry..for self medicating/via a plant

only god can make a plant/grow...in genesis1/26..it says god..gives us every seed bearing plant...that govt..deems..a plant...to be a drug..is a legal/fiction...its like calling willow/bark;..asprin...

its that sort of insanity..that woke me up...by the by...thc..works/physiologicly..ie it expands the arteries..thats all it does...allowing more blood-flow..to the brain..

govt dont like people to think to much...so its clear why they...had to create a law/based on fear campains/and fictions..besides in 1999 the drug law..raised 65 million in revenue..from fines alone[in qld]..so again..there is the greed

what bugs me...most..is the fines/revenue..dont go direct to govt/treasury...it all goes to the fed reserve bank...to repay/govt excess...

[like the 70 billion debt/qld..govt has presently...

noting its via..such things such as the half/billion...peter/beaty-up...EACH>..gifted to his and jonny/howhards/mate...mate it just stinks

ps..the silver thing....was assisted..
by two/brothers trying to corner the silver market

its funny..you talk about nett
i talk about how gross

but the gross/the 800...million...royalties...lol...
paid to govt...not the queen...
in return for 60/billion of coal/

mate thats theft..thats gross
even with your net
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 5 June 2010 6:34:27 PM
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