A Mandate what a load of crock

Now rudd the dudd threatened a double dissolusion election and what did he do, he ran the other way.

A man of convictions i do not think so.

Sonofgloin quote:
"Back when Rudd and I would still catch up for dinner or coffee, I knew him as a deeply insecure man who wanted nothing from politics but validation. Applause. Power.
Without revealing what he said in confidence, it struck me that there was no cause he cared about as deeply as his own success".

Much as I (dis)respect journalistic nouse---it's not exactly the distillation of work conducted under laboratory conditions; ergo, your friend might be beset by demons that make Rudd's look relatively harmless. Surely we're all carrying baggage, and Rudd doesn't look to me like the high school football hero! But in the absence of more enlightened souls, in the current system we have to be grateful for what we get!
Your assertion that Rudd is incompetent suggests that competence is a possibility; which to me is like saying that the Chernobyl meltdown was mismanaged.
As Greece is currently testifying, the capitalist system is a house of cards. For me, anything that contradicts monetary doctrine is potentially good. Maybe we need a driven neurotic at the helm at the moment; surely we're witnessing an unprecedented shift of power from governments to corporations. We're approaching a time when national sovereignty will be looked back upon as quaint. Rudd is possibly setting an important precedent here; just look at the media attention the (fat) mining moguls command! How come?

Rudd and his seven Labor mates are like Mafia Dons carving up their gangland territories. How long must we model our government on the Mafia. The Council of Australian Governments is more about collective stealing of private property, imposing speeding fines which no one pays, and one holdout refused to join in the whitewash that is Health reform.

It is pretty open gangland government. Get rid of the independent courts, and install lawyer/gangsters as the Judges, and grand larceny is suddenly respectable. Screw any man silly enough to have children with a cranky woman, using arbitrary agencies like Child Support, that without any legal authority whatsoever, put their hand directly into men’s bank accounts, and then set up Trustees in Bankruptcy and company liquidators who get their thievery rubber stamped by the Federal Court and a High Court on $7000 a week each who refuse to hear anything unless the media first have a go at them about it.

The Judicial Power of the Commonwealth is the power of Almighty God to be the ultimate Judge. The Power of Almighty God can stamp out crime, and some English Kings actually did this. When King Henry VII killed Richard III and installed himself as King, people regarded it as a Christian miracle. He ended the War of the Roses, ands his first act was to pardon and forgive the warring parties. He did not pass judgment on them, and vested the power of Almighty God in accordance with the Holy Bible in a jury of twelve men, and not otherwise. That was during the time lawyers were banned from Parliament. Rudd promised to govern as a Constitutionalist, and even goes to Church, but has no idea what the Christian system adopted by Henry VII actually does. It ushered in an era of peace order and good ( God) government.

65% of Australians are Christian. We want the pagans who currently govern us to adopt Christian principles of government, vest the Judicial Power of the Commonwealth in juries, as S 79 Constitution mandates, and have the crims pay their way

Posted by thinker 2, Thursday, 6 May 2010 6:50:20 PM
"When we voted for the Rudd Govt, we voted for an ETS. Not even the Greens seem to understand this".

The electorate did get the ETS when Rudd received the mandate to govern, but the reason he received the mandate from the electorate was not the ETS.
I believe that the reason that we turfed the Libs out so overwhelmingly was first and foremost "Work Choices". Second was the promise by Rudd to sort out the duopoly of Woolies and Coles in regard to basic food prices, coupled with the horrific movements in fuel. The ETS was an issue for the few not the majority, more talked about in trendy Glebe than grass roots Blacktown.

Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 6 May 2010 8:46:54 PM
Rudd doesn't look to me like the high school football hero! But in the absence of more enlightened souls, in the current system we have to be grateful for what we get!

Squeers your acceptance of low standards regarding the govt we pay for finds me thinking you deserve Kevin Rudd, but the nation as a whole does not, I do not.

Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 6 May 2010 8:46:54 PM
surely we're witnessing an unprecedented shift of power from governments to corporations. We're approaching a time when national sovereignty will be looked back upon as quaint. Rudd is possibly setting an important precedent here;

In the seventies the U.N. Development Organization, the IMF, and the World Bank, got together with the "Money" and started shifting manufacturing resource to the second and third world. This was done under the cloak of a humanitarian sharing of the wealth with these poor nations. The outcome is that manufacturing in the expensive labored first world was decimated and the subsistence agricultural slave of the third world became a subsistence manufacturing slave. The only ones to profit was the "Money". Have a look at the Lima Agreement from the seventies that the stupid pollies of all first world nations signed off on.

sonofgloin:
<your acceptance of low standards regarding the govt we pay for finds me thinking you deserve Kevin Rudd, but the nation as a whole does not, I do not.>

My 'acceptance' is more like 'resignation'; that the nation as a whole 'does' deserve Kevin Rudd is 'precisely' my point.
Ever heard of 'enlightened self-interest'? Well what we have in the West generally is 'benighted' self-interest.

Your last paragraph amply illustrates my (healthy) cynicism.

Surely you realise that capitalism, an engine of perpetual growth in a closed system, must inevitably spread globally. Manufacturing must go offshore and cultivate new markets, driving population and consumption ever upwards until finally the human plague becomes unsustainable and a massive collapse (die-off) ensues.
Adam Smith, btw, never intended wealth to be concentrated in the hands of mega-corporations, specifically foreseeing that danger.
He also naively supposed that 'self-interest' would be modestly contented with 'sufficient'.
The reality is that the wealthy never have enough and this--combined with ever more mouths to feed--necessarily imposes poverty elsewhere.
Until Western electorates, blinded by ideology, accepts these hardcore realities, they'll go on getting the pollies they deserve. Even when Enlightened pollies come along, they're lame ducks, prevented by the electorate (and the global system that prevents countries from 'opting out') from making the kinds of radical reforms that might prevent the coming holocaust.

PTB,

"65% of Australians are Christian. We want the pagans who currently govern us to adopt Christian principles of government, vest the Judicial Power of the Commonwealth."

The Greeks who established proto-democracy were pagans. The Romans who establsishe legal systems, before Constantine (and some afterwards) were pagans.

Pagans were civil polytheists. Historically, it was the Christians, who were atheists, because they would not pray for the good health of the Emperor. As I think I have mentioned before, the Jews were respected for the long traditionas of their religion in Roman, but, over stepped the mark by invading a Roman garision in riot responding to the Greeks having animal sacrifices near their Temple, thus, starting a war with Rome.

As for the post-Hastings Monarchs, it is hard to justify divine intervention. The Normans turned the Anglo Saxon and Celt world upside down, with dire consequences for the aboriginal clans.

As for Rudd and Abbott, going to Church is like kissing babies and telling lies, its part of a politican's life. Albeit, perhaps Abbott is a true theist